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mikeh1998
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This info is junk
You should always determine the dose based on your bloodwork. Primo lowers estrogen, so you should know if you are a high or low aromatiser. I would advice against 200 test 400 primo and start with highter test instead. 300/300 could work but estrogen could be on the low side here. I think 400/300 would be better for most people but again, check your E2 after a few weeks on cycle to be sure.
btw: Please do not use ChatGPT for such things, it´s not reliable.
btw: Please do not use ChatGPT for such things, it´s not reliable.
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Fancyexplaining why?
mikeh1998
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the difference in “surpression” makes no sense. Same with “stability”. Both of those are made up.
Androgenic and estrogens sides are person dependent
Some people get insane hair loss from Primo and others get zero hair loss from test
BamaCrazy
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What I would suggest is getting labs for a baseline. Then running 300mg test first for a few weeks (if you have not done so already) and see how your body reacts to it. E2, BP, lipids, RBC/hematocrit, etc. Your E2 will give you an idea about Test/Primo ratio. But it’s still a guessing game.
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Thanks guys.
Gonna do 300/300 and get bloods done. When shouold I do bloods? 4 weeks?
Am I ok keeping 100/200 mg mast in the cycle too? (I’ve been doing test 300 mast 200 for 8 weeks gut felt primo may be better for ky goal)
Gonna do 300/300 and get bloods done. When shouold I do bloods? 4 weeks?
Am I ok keeping 100/200 mg mast in the cycle too? (I’ve been doing test 300 mast 200 for 8 weeks gut felt primo may be better for ky goal)
BamaCrazy
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Primo peaks in your system 6-8 weeks after your first injection. I’d wait at least 6 weeks. Well, unless you start having health issues/concerns. Then do it sooner.
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Thanks mate.
I’m thinking 400 test, 300 primo and 200 mast. Seems to be a great cycle that.
I’m thinking 400 test, 300 primo and 200 mast. Seems to be a great cycle that.
TheScholarOfBrew
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A lot of people don’t realize how useful ChatGPT can be because they don’t know how to use it properly. I’ve learned a ton from it, but that’s because I take the time to train it and ask the right questions. If you just throw out vague questions and expect perfect answers, you’re going to get nonsense.
The key to getting accurate info is actually putting in the effort. I’ve trained ChatGPT with real research studies, graphs, and data on esters, molecular weights, and hormones. That way, when I ask something, it already has the right foundation. You also need to be using GPT-4 with memory on, so it can build on what you’ve discussed before.
Most people don’t fact-check it, don’t push it to refine its reasoning, and then complain when they get a bad answer. I always have it fact-check itself with web searches or tell it to play devil’s advocate so I can see where the weak points in its logic are. If you challenge it properly, it actually becomes an amazing tool.
I’ve learned almost all my homebrew knowledge this way. Instead of spending hours digging through old research papers, I have ChatGPT pull out the relevant info for me and explain it clearly. I’ve had it break down ester weights, solvent ratios, and step-by-step brewing processes. It’s not about blindly trusting AI—it’s about knowing how to use it.
People who say ChatGPT isn’t reliable just don’t know what they’re doing. It’s not the AI’s fault if someone asks dumb questions and gets a bad answer. If you treat it like an expert and force it to give better responses, it will. It’s one of the best research tools out there if you use it right.
The key to getting accurate info is actually putting in the effort. I’ve trained ChatGPT with real research studies, graphs, and data on esters, molecular weights, and hormones. That way, when I ask something, it already has the right foundation. You also need to be using GPT-4 with memory on, so it can build on what you’ve discussed before.
Most people don’t fact-check it, don’t push it to refine its reasoning, and then complain when they get a bad answer. I always have it fact-check itself with web searches or tell it to play devil’s advocate so I can see where the weak points in its logic are. If you challenge it properly, it actually becomes an amazing tool.
I’ve learned almost all my homebrew knowledge this way. Instead of spending hours digging through old research papers, I have ChatGPT pull out the relevant info for me and explain it clearly. I’ve had it break down ester weights, solvent ratios, and step-by-step brewing processes. It’s not about blindly trusting AI—it’s about knowing how to use it.
People who say ChatGPT isn’t reliable just don’t know what they’re doing. It’s not the AI’s fault if someone asks dumb questions and gets a bad answer. If you treat it like an expert and force it to give better responses, it will. It’s one of the best research tools out there if you use it right.
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petit_rafalet
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You mentioned this will be your second cycle. How was your first one?
Mrhairyman
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Test Primo 2:1 , then adjust in 3-4 weeks according to sides and goals.
I don't recommend using an AI on Primo as it will crash your estrogen alone
I don't recommend using an AI on Primo as it will crash your estrogen alone
Im 100% with you! Otherwise can kill e2. Ive alredy experienced. No joke
Starting with 300mg of Test and 150mg of Primo. When Feeling good 400mg and 200mg. Thats a proper second try.
Rakusa
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How do you modify the primo dose afterwards? Like do you get bloods done? I heard many times before now that bloods don't really matter that much with e2 and you should go by feel. And after modifying the dose it should take another 4 weeks for the changes to manifest, right?
Jabroni_Meathead
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100% correct. I ran 1:1 and it severely crashed my E2 from 67 to 12. I always run a 2:1 now because of the AI effect. I have posted my blood work before, during, and after primo here a few times.
Simply give it a try... However, employing low testosterone with high anabolic compounds has never been particularly effective for packing on substantial muscle mass.
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I use ChatGPT every single goddamn day of my life. It’s amazing. How do you train it?
I do find it makes mistakes sometimes! The worst mistake seems to make is when trying to work out how many sets your doing per body part when you’re putting a plan in it. I’m not sure why I can’t figure it out.
I think people think ChatGPT just make stuff up, but it takes data from the internet.
I trust it more than a forum. For instance for cycle, I mentioned above, that states more Primo and less test is going to be better, makes complete sense when you look at the research around everything it says!
High test is going to cause more bloat, higher BP, more sides etc. People seem to dismiss it for no reason.
If I could get Primo at 200 mg per ML I would 100% be doing more primo than test once I’d assessed my Estero levels. Unfortunately, I can’t get it.
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petit_rafalet
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Sounds good
I would add only one additional component to the test in your second cycle, to compare how your body reacts on each compound. I'm a very good masteron responder but the most of people have more gains with primo. If you mix both, you won't really know where the gains are coming from
