Primobolan and E2

[MisterT]

Got bloods back on Test E P10 520mg a week, was expecting a little higher total since I was right over 1500 on 260mg a week. Free and Bio still high as fuck, dropping the primo did nothing to bring my SHBG up, still at 8.

Guess that means if my E2 comes back high I can add the primo back xD

 

[AlexDavis43]

Got bloods back on Test E P10 520mg a week, was expecting a little higher total since I was right over 1500 on 260mg a week.

At least for me, testosterone levels aren't linear with dose (double dose doesn't mean double levels)

Guess that means if my E2 comes back high I can add the primo back xD

It's not hard to find reasons to add primo back xD

 

[MisterT]

At least for me, testosterone levels aren't linear with dose (double dose doesn't mean double levels)



It's not hard to find reasons to add primo back xD

While I do agree I just was expecting around 2600ish, but it looks like my free and bio almost doubled.

Alright you convinced me <3

 

[MisterT]

Got bloods back on Test E P10 520mg a week, was expecting a little higher total since I was right over 1500 on 260mg a week. Free and Bio still high as fuck, dropping the primo did nothing to bring my SHBG up, still at 8.

Guess that means if my E2 comes back high I can add the primo back xDView attachment 375442

E2 came back at 110 xD Guess being almost 10% bf doesn't help me with e2.

Now the real question, Primo or AI(Aromasin). This my first actual cycle so I was trying to just ride Test out for the first time but I was already using primo prior to 6 weeks ago and it works awesome at 3:1 2:1 to keep my e2 in range.

 

[Dial It In]

E2 came back at 110 xD Guess being almost 10% bf doesn't help me with e2.

Now the real question, Primo or AI(Aromasin). This my first actual cycle so I was trying to just ride Test out for the first time but I was already using primo prior to 6 weeks ago and it works awesome at 3:1 2:1 to keep my e2 in range.

Guess it depends on your wallet and desire to add another AAS to your cycle. Dollar for dollar a AI would be best as you don’t know how much primo it’s going to take. Another question also is can you get the results you want dropping the test amount you cycle to help with E2. There is also some that have better E2 control by increasing the pinning frequency by keeping levels more stable. Depending on a compound that is hit and miss on availability and high on cost for E2 control would lead me to go toward a AI that are in abundance.

 

[MisterT]

Guess it depends on your wallet and desire to add another AAS to your cycle. Dollar for dollar a AI would be best as you don’t know how much primo it’s going to take. Another question also is can you get the results you want dropping the test amount you cycle to help with E2. There is also some that have better E2 control by increasing the pinning frequency by keeping levels more stable. Depending on a compound that is hit and miss on availability and high on cost for E2 control would lead me to go toward a AI that are in abundance.

Thank you.

So in terms of Primo I already have a decent stock that I got for a pretty okay price compared to what things are now. I was running primo at 3:1 which brought my e2 from around 80 to 20 on 260mg Test E but I dropped the primo to see if EOD pinning and being lower BF would keep me below 70 on 520mg Test a week but clearly that didn't pan out haha. I also dropped it to see if I could get my SHBG back up in the 20s but it stayed at 8 without the primo. If the SHBG went back up I was going to use a AI for e2.

I felt great with e2 in the 80s on 260mg, and I feel probably better than I ever have right now on 520mg but 110 sensitive e2 is just to high for my comfort. If I added the Primo back I would probably still start at 3:1 and if needed go to 2:1 but that Primo brings down my e2 real nice. The Ai I would maybe start like 6.5mg EOD as I pin EOD. (EDIT: Also been on Accutane so I am already highly monitoring my Liver Values, which it seems Ai might mess with too)

 

[powdered_toast_man]

E2 came back at 110 xD Guess being almost 10% bf doesn't help me with e2.

Now the real question, Primo or AI(Aromasin). This my first actual cycle so I was trying to just ride Test out for the first time but I was already using primo prior to 6 weeks ago and it works awesome at 3:1 2:1 to keep my e2 in range.

omg the primo lowers e2 and mast is SERM BS just wont fucking die. even though Derek hasnt updated his channel in years, the shit just won't die.

 

[MisterT]

omg the primo lowers e2 and mast is SERM BS just wont fucking die. even though Derek hasnt updated his channel in years, the shit just won't die.

Does bloodwork lie? Must just be Placebo blood changes.

 

[powdered_toast_man]

Does bloodwork lie? Must just be Placebo blood changes.

you almost answered your own question. keep going.

 

[just some dude]

omg the primo lowers e2 and mast is SERM BS just wont fucking die. even though Derek hasnt updated his channel in years, the shit just won't die.

niche comment

 

[MisterT]

you almost answered your own question. keep going.

My point exactly. Now go fuck off. I will go off facts, not opinions.

 

[oldage]

omg the primo lowers e2 and mast is SERM BS just wont fucking die. even though Derek hasnt updated his channel in years, the shit just won't die.

Primo crushes my E2. Cant use it in a meaningful way. Blood work doesnt lie.

 

[AIRBORNE DADDY]

omg the primo lowers e2 and mast is SERM BS just wont fucking die. even though Derek hasnt updated his channel in years, the shit just won't die.

Mast never did anything for my e2. Was running a simple 200 test/200 tren that was actually 248. After stopping tren I added 300 mast p and after 4 or 5 weeks my e2 was still 90. Granted I'm old and chubby....

 

[MisterT]

Mast never did anything for my e2. Was running a simple 200 test/200 tren that was actually 248. After stopping tren I added 300 mast p and after 4 or 5 weeks my e2 was still 90. Granted I'm old and chubby....

I took it as Primo actually has some lowering e2 ability for most(not all) people, some even more than others like even a little nukes their e2 even on blast.

While Mast just "mask" some high e2 sides. Like stopping gyno even tho your e2 is high as fuck, bloods will still show the high e2 values but sides gone.

 

[AIRBORNE DADDY]

I took it as Primo actually has some lowering e2 ability for most(not all) people, some even more than others like even a little nukes their e2 even on blast.

While Mast just "mask" some high e2 sides. Like stopping gyno even tho your e2 is high as fuck, bloods will still show the high e2 values but sides gone.

Ah, I gotcha. Not too long ago, heavy aromatizers all took an ai (i do) now everyone says add primo or eq, dont mess with an ai. Also everyone used to run tren at 300mg or higher, now everyone does like 100ish. I guess cuz we've learned much more in the past 5 to 10 years. Idk but it's prolly too late for me at this point.

 

[2ndchancesNK]

Ah, I gotcha. Not too long ago, heavy aromatizers all took an ai (i do) now everyone says add primo or eq, dont mess with an ai. Also everyone used to run tren at 300mg or higher, now everyone does like 100ish. I guess cuz we've learned much more in the past 5 to 10 years. Idk but it's prolly too late for me at this point.

I absolutely think if you’re someone who likes Primo or EQ, and you know how it affects E2 on bloodwork, then it can be used secondarily for its effect on E2. Far too many newbies want to put it in their cycle for controlling E2 which I personally think is retarded. Fact of the matter is, nobody can tell you what either drug will do to your E2 without taking it, but we know exactly what is going to happen when we deploy aromasin or arimidex. When used in conjunction with blood work those two drugs can get anyone absolutely massive with just Test alone and not having to increase anabolic load with Primo/EQ.

I took Primo one time, for my 2nd cycle and believe it to be the MOST overhyped steroid of all time. Once the standard 100$ price point of 200mg/ml nearly doubled in some places and people snatched it up I couldn’t believe my eyes.

 

[bigstepper]

I absolutely think if you’re someone who likes Primo or EQ, and you know how it affects E2 on bloodwork, then it can be used secondarily for its effect on E2. Far too many newbies want to put it in their cycle for controlling E2 which I personally think is retarded. Fact of the matter is, nobody can tell you what either drug will do to your E2 without taking it, but we know exactly what is going to happen when we deploy aromasin or arimidex. When used in conjunction with blood work those two drugs can get anyone absolutely massive with just Test alone and not having to increase anabolic load with Primo/EQ.

I took Primo one time, for my 2nd cycle and believe it to be the MOST overhyped steroid of all time. Once the standard 100$ price point of 200mg/ml nearly doubled in some places and people snatched it up I couldn’t believe my eyes.

Before tik tok..

Primo was for chicks
500 test and 20-40 dbol was first cycle
Needles were 23g 1.5”
Squatting in the smith got you laughed out the gym

Times have definitely changed

 

[Athleticfreak]

omg the primo lowers e2 and mast is SERM BS just wont fucking die. even though Derek hasnt updated his channel in years, the shit just won't die.

Are you saying they’re not true?

 

[monster8912]

Before tik tok..

Primo was for chicks
500 test and 20-40 dbol was first cycle
Needles were 23g 1.5”
Squatting in the smith got you laughed out the gym

Times have definitely changed

I think dbol has gone the way of the dinosaur nowadays

 

[oldage]

I think dbol has gone the way of the dinosaur nowadays

Primo and dbol. Arnold's go to? That look is classic.