Primobolan Depot fot TRT

[hardbodygirl]

Read the HRT studies on Tren. Usually less negatives/sides than Test itself.

I plan to cycle Tren and Deca with my TRT. Probably six months of each a year, but I'm not sure if I'll go 6:6 or 3:3:3:3.

You can stay on your TRT at 1 ml. every 5 days, and cycle your other gear right along with it! Tren-A & Test-Prop, and Mast-Prop, is an excellent combo. Or you can run a straight Tren cycle.. just mix your Tren-A along with Tren-E... the key is finding good Trenbolone! I would have somone homebrew you some "Fina" straight from the finaplix pellets if you can find such a person to do it for you.. or show you how to do it? Every several months, you still need to cycle off the TRT, and do some products that will shake up your nutts and get them working again! Otherwise, when your on cycle in general, it will not be as productive! You can do whatever you want.. as i hate to see this turn into a big debate, or controversy. But whatever you decide.. Good Luck with your training!

 

[Avies48]

ive been told by a bunch of people to go with primo basically because it doesnt raise ur hct? how true is this? i have bad hct when on test treatment so was taken off after being on trt for 7 years or so... even tho it will lower my test if taking primo, id be willing to try it myself, along w low dose tren if i dont get crazy while on it...

 

[Dr JIM]

I want to clarify my question; I think I worded the original poorly.

Lets assume I was doing twice weekly shots of Test Cyp for hypgonadism like many on here do.

Why couldn't I use primobolan shots weekly or whenever and not have the E2 problems that can arise from Test-C???

Worded another way "why doesn't MDs prescribe Primobolan for us low test guys? Is it commercially available??

First you REALLY need to differentiate TRT from CYCLING.

The objective of TRT is to restore PHYSIOLOGIC Test levels while CYCLING involves the pursuit of SUPRA-PHYSIOLOGIC AA levels.

The former only requires 100-200mg/wk of TT to restore "natural" Biologic functions while the latter varies to as much as ONE Gram/wk!

It's important to realize E-2 is not the enemy of "maleness" but is in fact REQUIRED to maintain certain physiologic necessities, bone health in particular.

However the E-2 levels reached when CYCLING certainly can be problematic yet can be diminished using several methods when cycling. These range from decreasing the dose of those AAS which AROMATIZE such as TT, D-bol or thru the use of SERMS or AI's.

But TRT is TRT and CYCLING is CYCLING and whenever I hear these terms being used interchangeably, it becomes more clear why certain questions are asked.

As some have already mentioned, although there may be some unforeseen benefit of using other AAS while on TRT the focus should always be on the maintenance of TT related physiology.

Otherwise one's "TRT" regimen is often no more than a CYCLE of AAS, justified bc "it's TRT".

And in that instance the only person you are fooling is yourself. Primarily bc the adverse effects of CYCLING are entirely more complex and difficult to manage compared to those of TRT!

 

[biceps72]

First you REALLY need to differentiate TRT from CYCLING.

The objective of TRT is to restore PHYSIOLOGIC Test levels while CYCLING involves the pursuit of SUPRA-PHYSIOLOGIC AA levels.

The former only requires 100-200mg/wk of TT to restore "natural" Biologic functions while the latter varies to as much as ONE Gram/wk!

It's important to realize E-2 is not the enemy of "maleness" but is in fact REQUIRED to maintain certain physiologic necessities, bone health in particular.

However the E-2 levels reached when CYCLING certainly can be problematic yet can be diminished using several methods when cycling. These range from decreasing the dose of those AAS which AROMATIZE such as TT, D-bol or thru the use of SERMS or AI's.

But TRT is TRT and CYCLING is CYCLING and whenever I hear these terms being used interchangeably, it becomes more clear why certain questions are asked.

As some have already mentioned, although there may be some unforeseen benefit of using other AAS while on TRT the focus should always be on the maintenance of TT related physiology.

Otherwise one's "TRT" regimen is often no more than a CYCLE of AAS, justified bc "it's TRT".

And in that instance the only person you are fooling is yourself. Primarily bc the adverse effects of CYCLING are entirely more complex and difficult to manage compared to those of TRT!

I really screwed up the question.

I am interested in TRT only. I have never had interest in cycling AAS and never will; I am 65.

It just seemed to me that many of us on TRT

 

[biceps72]

I really screwed up the question.

I am interested in TRT only. I have never had interest in cycling AAS and never will; I am 65.

It just seemed to me that many of us on TRT

have E2 issues at one time or the other. I have minimal issues with E2 now by minimizing my androgel usage. However my e2 can slowly rise where I take an AI.

My question about primobolan related only to TRT to get our total testosterone in the normal range. I read that it does not convert to E2? So it seemed like a good TRT product, So how does Primobolan differ from Test-c that is prescribed for TRT?

 

[I6JQdr06]

have E2 issues at one time or the other. I have minimal issues with E2 now by minimizing my androgel usage. However my e2 can slowly rise where I take an AI.

My question about primobolan related only to TRT to get our total testosterone in the normal range. I read that it does not convert to E2? So it seemed like a good TRT product, So how does Primobolan differ from Test-c that is prescribed for TRT?

If you take primobolan instead of testosterone you won’t be able to get your test into normal range no matter how much you take. IE your test levels will be zero. This is a problem because your body needs testosterone. You can’t entirely replace it with another steroid (well not this one anyway).

There is an argument (from anecdotal reports) for running primobolan alongside your test because it may act as an aromatise inhibitor. But if you’re only interested replacement therapy, why not just take an AI?

Or if you’re happy to inject (primo is usually injectable), switch from the cream to microdosing Nebido (IE take 100mg every week rather than 1000mg every ten weeks). The more stable your levels the less likely you’re going to run into E2 issues.

What I’m saying is that I think you’re chasing a red herring with Primobolan. It’s a performance enhancing drug rather than a testosterone replacement. Some people use it at low doses with TRT but it’s the extra oomph in the gym they’re looking for, not symptom resolution.

 

[I6JQdr06]

If you take primobolan instead of testosterone you won’t be able to get your test into normal range no matter how much you take. IE your test levels will be zero. This is a problem because your body needs testosterone. You can’t entirely replace it with another steroid (well not this one anyway).

There is an argument (from anecdotal reports) for running primobolan alongside your test because it may act as an aromatise inhibitor. But if you’re only interested replacement therapy, why not just take an AI?

Or if you’re happy to inject (primo is usually injectable), switch from the cream to microdosing Nebido (IE take 100mg every week rather than 1000mg every ten weeks). The more stable your levels the less likely you’re going to run into E2 issues.

What I’m saying is that I think you’re chasing a red herring with Primobolan. It’s a performance enhancing drug rather than a testosterone replacement. Some people use it at low doses with TRT but it’s the extra oomph in the gym they’re looking for, not symptom resolution.

Aand... I just realised I replied to an 8 year old thread