Pristine Bold Cyp retest results

To me, two options;

1. We have a case of source tampering
2. OP of the bad bold Cyp test and this new one got one of the very first vial of batch 001 and some equipment wasn’t properly taken care of between switching compounds to vial.

That’s all I’ve got.
Source or sample tampering?
 
To me, two options;

1. We have a case of source tampering
2. OP of the bad bold Cyp test and this new one got one of the very first vial of batch 001 and some equipment wasn’t properly taken care of between switching compounds to vial.

That’s all I’ve got.

Also, how many beakers did batch 1 consist of? Each beaker adds the possibility of a new “error” to be made within the same batch number.
 
Also, how many beakers did batch 1 consist of? Each beaker adds the possibility of a new “error” to be made within the same batch number.
No clue. We’ll never know. All we have is two tests of the same batch. One is perfect. One is 25% Deca....

What I do know is what I think is most likely at this moment given the evidence..
 
OP tampering with Pristine’s product.

@Eman agreed..where does that leave us *shrug*

I guess there's no way to know that... That would be kind of impressive though in it's own way. I don't know why anyone would bother to go to such lengths.

I have no confidence in "batches". The idea behind making batch X, Y, Z is to isolate a potential problem between them. However, I've seen sources identify batches that didn't really isolate them from other batches at all... They were basically numbers on a vial that didn't mean anything.
 
To me, two options;

1. We have a case of source tampering
2. OP of the bad bold Cyp test and this new one got one of the very first vial of batch 001 and some equipment wasn’t properly taken care of between switching compounds to vial.

That’s all I’ve got.
Too much deviation for it to be dirty filter in manufacturing etc. There was some sort of that with another source and I believe it was like 5% of tren in some mast, not 25%, seems to me like bad raws , bad manufacturing process for the one batch or blatant tampering

Pristine said he only sold 4 vials of this stuff total. Not sure that’s worth anything anymore
 
I guess there's no way to know that... That would be kind of impressive though in it's own way. I don't know why anyone would bother to go to such lengths.

I have no confidence in "batches". The idea behind making batch X, Y, Z is to isolate a potential problem between them. However, I've seen sources identify batches that didn't really isolate them from other batches at all... They were basically numbers on a vial that didn't mean anything.

In order to have the mg/ml correct at 200, the deca probably would have first had to be diluted down to 200mg/ml since most deca products are 300mg these days then the 25% added to the test sample. Seems like a bit of trouble just to taint a sample.

I’m still sticking to my theory that he ran short of BC raws and grabbed the deca to make up the rest.
 
In order to have the mg/ml correct at 200, the deca probably would have first had to be diluted down to 200mg/ml since most deca products are 300mg these days then the 25% added to the test sample. Seems like a bit of trouble just to taint a sample.

I’m still sticking to my theory that he ran short of BC raws and grabbed the deca to make up the rest.
We have conflicting tests though. He certainly would’ve dispersed a shortage over the batch of raws by mixing, not to a single or isolated vials. Same for a contaminated raw from the source.

Nothing truly adds up..
 
We have conflicting tests though. He certainly would’ve dispersed a shortage over the batch of raws by mixing, not to a single or isolated vials. Same for a contaminated raw from the source.

Nothing truly adds up..

That’s why I mentioned we don’t know how many beakers of product produced are included in that batch. Most batches are a certain shipment of raws and then there are individual brews that come out of those raws and are considered a batch leaving multiple time for a variance to occur. I seem to recall a volume that he claimed he was brewing one time and it was something that even I would consider to have been a small brew.
 
That’s why I mentioned we don’t know how many beakers of product produced are included in that batch. Most batches are a certain shipment of raws and then there are individual brews that come out of those raws and are considered a batch leaving multiple time for a variance to occur. I seem to recall a volume that he claimed he was brewing one time and it was something that even I would consider to have been a small brew.
Regardless of what happened, his actions have proven him to be a sack of shit.
 
The thought also crossed my mind that, Jano could have very well tampered with the specimen, in order to try and eliminate W&M(competition) from being used.

it would be great if another lab capable of handling the testing of raws and finished oils stepped in and under cup jano's prices. Its going to need to be a team effort in order to bleed that eastern European fee fee.
 
The thought also crossed my mind that, Jano could have very well tampered with the specimen, in order to try and eliminate W&M(competition) from being used.

it would be great if another lab capable of handling the testing of raws and finished oils stepped in and under cup jano's prices. Its going to need to be a team effort in order to bleed that eastern European fee fee.

The guy who submitted the sample to Jano also submitted a sample to W&M. Very similar results.

Edit: I totally agree with you on having additional domestic testing labs. I hope W&M sticks around as an option.
 
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The guy who submitted the sample to Jano also submitted a sample to W&M. Very similar results.

Edit: I totally agree with you on having additional domestic testing labs. I hope W&M sticks around as an option.
That guy surely mentions cum and certain ethnicity awfully much.

I'm thinking cellmate induced PTSD, what do you think?
 
The thought also crossed my mind that, Jano could have very well tampered with the specimen, in order to try and eliminate W&M(competition) from being used.

it would be great if another lab capable of handling the testing of raws and finished oils stepped in and under cup jano's prices. Its going to need to be a team effort in order to bleed that eastern European fee fee.
Possible but not plausible or probable. As 3BG said - another blind sample was sent to W&M and the results were nearly identical. Either Brian tampered with it, which is highly doubtful, given his history or Prissy screwed up, which is the most likely outcome, as evidenced by how he’s chosen to “handle” this.
 
only proves you got one test right. its a fact you lied and were wrong on other tests. once you mess up even one test your credibility is tainted and every test has to be questioned after that. sad but true. not saying your at least in the ball park. But you need to be 100 percent or you could ruin a sources reputation. you were 50 to 60 mg off on other tests that were questioned. How many other tests were off that weren't sent back in blind to be retested? there is no way to know. You seem like a good guy but your testing isn't 100 percent. not even 5 to 10 percent off all the time ...maybe 75 to 80 percent i'd say, which isn't good enough for the service your providing...

For reference:

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Thank you for posting this, I am happy that this confirms my testing and that my positive review of W&Ms chemists capabilities seems to hold as well.
 
only proves you got one test right. its a fact you lied and were wrong on other tests. once you mess up even one test your credibility is tainted and every test has to be questioned after that. sad but true. not saying your at least in the ball park. But you need to be 100 percent or you could ruin a sources reputation. you were 50 to 60 mg off on other tests that were questioned. How many other tests were off that weren't sent back in blind to be retested? there is no way to know. You seem like a good guy but your testing isn't 100 percent. not even 5 to 10 percent off all the time ...maybe 75 to 80 percent i'd say, which isn't good enough for the service your providing...
Well, so much for pulling numbers out of a hat. Anyway, happy to see that 3/3 of your posts are about the same issue and me.

Nobody's testing is 100 percent and everybody lies. Don't even get me started on that, it's a bad look.
 
facts are facts....not calling you a liar. but you tested a product at 150mg ...it was sent back in from the same bottle and tested over 200....and this has been proven many times. i could see being off 10 mg maybe 20...not 50 or more...your tests should all be resent in anonymously when questionable and retested. guarantee more will be proven to be wrong. you may have a clue what your doing, but your no expert.
 
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