Proposed Cycle (Test E / EQ/ Test P)

[jongalt]

Guys, tell me what you think:

Week 1 - EQ - 600mg once + 300mg E3D
Week 2-11 - EQ - 300mg E3D
Week 1-13 - TestE - 300mg E3D
Week 14 - TestP - 75mg EOD
Week 15 - TestP - 125mg EOD
Week 16 - TestP - 150mg EOD
Week 1-16 - HcG - 500 EOD

Week 17-22 - Clomid - 50mg 2/day
Week 17-24 - Nolva - 20mg 2/day

Stats:
33yo, 5'6, 150lbs, 10% BF, light and soft for me (coming off of shoulder injury but gtg)
I peak around 165-170lbs, 8% natty
Relative noob to gear.

Thank you in advance for any suggestions.

 

[HuckingFuge]

I think EQ should be run 14 weeks at least. what does your diet look like?

 

[jongalt]

I think EQ should be run 14 weeks at least. what does your diet look like?

I shoot for 1g protien from meat and supps per pound of target BW and another .5g from carb sources per pound of target BW and 400-600g carbs per day. Chicken breasts, brown rice, quinoa, and sweet potatoes are my staples with green stuff thrown in here and there.

I want to give the EQ time to work, but I'm worried about extending the shutdown too long. Do you think taking it out to 14 would be too risky, or am I just being a pussy?

 

[jongalt]

My target is 175lbs btw

 

[HuckingFuge]

I think your being a pussy. you have got your diet backwards, you need to have protein at 2g per pound of body weight and if need be carbs at 1g per pound of body weight, don't forget about fat in your diet.

 

[jongalt]

Lol. Alright, so an extra 3 weeks isn't a big deal? I usually don't get in all my carbs tbh. 400g is a lot of freaking rice. the times I have though, I was a freaking machine with no bottom. I figured as long as I'm staying lean, the extra fuel can't hurt. I forgot about the fat. I supp with fish and flax seed oil and throw a shot of olive oil in my whey. How do the dosages, test p taper, and PCT look to you?

 

[HuckingFuge]

I wouldn't taper, just run 150mg Test Prop EOD.

 

[lightspan]

Clomid for 6 weeks at 100 mg a day and nolva for 8 weeks at 40 mg a day? That is a bit excessive. That much clomid will wreck you and turn you into a sniveling emotional bitch. Run the clomid and nolva 4 weeks, I like 100/50/50/50 clomid, 40/40/20/20 nolva. Pretty standard.

Hcg at 500 iu eod is also overkill. I run 250 iu e3d. Stop before PCT.

Hucking has it spot on, don't mess with tapering up the prop. Run it 150 mg eod and call it good. Start PCT three days after your last prop pin.

 

[Northern Nutrition]

Are you including an AI in this cycle?

 

[jongalt]

@Northern, Ameridex on hand. I was planning to taper up from .25mg e3d as needed when I start to notice bloat or other E sides. I'm open to suggestions / recommendations though. Unfortunately I don't have a source for stane.

 

[Northern Nutrition]

Adex is fine, but use it on-cycle. Begin as you stated - .25mg EOD. Dont wait for sides to appear. Lots going on internally that is often ignored.

Mid cycle bloods will tell the tale.

 

[jongalt]

@Northern Nutrition Good deal, I wondered about that. Prevention sounds better than repair to me. Should I wait a week or two since I'm using long esters, or just start the first week? I know it's a guessing game until bloods, like you said.

 

[Northern Nutrition]

You can begin .25mg EOD right away - no need to wait for cycle to "spool up". Adjust from there. 25.mg EOD is a VERY safe dose to begin any cycle that shuts you down (which invariably means you have supra physical amounts of TT and therefore increasing E2)

 

[jongalt]

Thanks, man. You know your stuff. I appreciate all you guys helping me out.