Purple Panda Labs - Test E (300 mg/mL) & Primo (100 mg/mL) - HPLC - Jano

[MisterSuperGod]

I let it rest for a month, and when I tried to inject there again, it's painless and smooth AF.

From my experience, it doesn't last. It will go back to being a PIA to inject after awhile if it is indeed scar tissue.

 

[MadBret]

Yes, I feel like it might be a vague possibility.
Or those pus neutrophiles digesting that testosterone on spot of inflammation.

Don't know, just throwing out the possibilities.

I read of guys having elevated white blood cells after using mct based oil. Maybe an allergic reaction? At any rate, my buddy just had bloods done and had been using MCT based gear as well. His white blood cell count was a bit elevated. Is this something that also happens from using gear made with more traditional oils like GSO or sesame oil?

 

[janoshik]

I read of guys having elevated white blood cells after using mct based oil. Maybe an allergic reaction? At any rate, my buddy just had bloods done and had been using MCT based gear as well. His white blood cell count was a bit elevated. Is this something that also happens from using gear made with more traditional oils like GSO or sesame oil?

No idea. Allergy related WBC are eosinophils or something, so if he gets more detailed bloods he ought to see those if that's it if I'm correct. Might be wrong though, been a long time since I interpreted bloods last time.

 

[the_unit]

Original thread for context:

PurplePandaLabs Test E 300 mg/mL - Bloodwork (Testosterone: 57 ng/dL, ref range: 249-836 ng/dL) - Feb 2022

Last year, I ordered 6 vials of Test E 300mg/mL from PuplePandaLabs. I recently checked my test level on cruise (100 mg Test E per week, which is 50 mg twice weekly), and my testosterone level turned out to be 57 ng/dL (reference range: 249-836 ng/dL). I was shocked, so I rechecked again 3 days...

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[MadBret]

No idea. Allergy related WBC are eosinophils or something, so if he gets more detailed bloods he ought to see those if that's it if I'm correct. Might be wrong though, been a long time since I interpreted bloods last time.

He just switched to some sesame oil based gear. I guess he'll see if there's any difference in his next blood tests. Take care, bud.

 

[janoshik]

cheers

 

[Nonoy19]

cheers

@purplepandalabs Test E (300 mg/mL):

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Primo (100 mg/mL):

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Tested by @janoshik

Was the sample you sent jano from the same vial that gave you poor bloodwork?

 

[ConfusedAF]

Yes, I feel like it might be a vague possibility.
Or those pus neutrophiles digesting that testosterone on spot of inflammation.

Don't know, just throwing out the possibilities.

You scared me with your theories bro. I think I'll stick with their Test C then. Never thought that the PIP/inflammation of the Test E could be that detrimental.

 

[ConfusedAF]

Background he posted before bloodwork using these vials and his labs came back at like less than 100 that’s why he sent them for testing

The one with the <100 Test level was when I used the vial of Test E which arrived in opened condition (might be during the shipping process, or checked by the customs, IDK). I've thrown away that vial and it's not relevant in this case.

Was the sample you sent jano from the same vial that gave you poor bloodwork?

This sample was the one that had my T level of 322 ng/dL

 

[ConfusedAF]

From my experience, it doesn't last. It will go back to being a PIA to inject after awhile if it is indeed scar tissue.

I now inject on each site every 2 weeks instead of 1 to prevent the formation of scar tissue. Will ditch the site as soon as I feel any pain or it's hard to push the plunger.

 

[ConfusedAF]

Copying my posts from PPL source thread to make a few things clear:

I want to clear things up. After seeing Jano's results, this bloodwork result during my cruise is obviously not due to the gear quality. It is most likely due to my personal mistake. Sorry for accusing you @purplepandalabs

There might be several factors, but the one that I'm sure of is that I used a 3mL syringe to draw 0.2mL of Test E, and I never removed the air pocket that's inside the syringe. So I'm sure that I took less volume of oil that I intended to.

Moving forward, I'll be using a 1mL syringe on my cruise, overdraw the Test, and push the plunger to remove the air pocket. This way I can get the dose that I want.

I'm not sure if other reasons such as scar tissue or inflammation (discussed in my thread in the Steroid Lab Testing section) affect the result due to altered absorption rate. During that cruise, my VG injection is a bit painful and it's quite difficult to push the plunger.

Anyways, I'm glad that I haven't thrown out my stash of NPP, Primo, and Test C. I'm not sure if I still want to use the Test E though, due to the PIP and inflammation it might cause.

After getting Jano's results, I'm quite confident that PPL finished products are properly dosed. Getting the gear tested is a much more objective method to check its quality compared to bloodwork.

 

[klokke23]

This is an interesting read.

Measuring Testosterone in Blood Immunoassays

An often requested blood parameter by anabolic steroid users is, not surprisingly, testosterone. However, there appear to be quite some misconceptions

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[Nonoy19]

This is an interesting read.

Measuring Testosterone in Blood Immunoassays

An often requested blood parameter by anabolic steroid users is, not surprisingly, testosterone. However, there appear to be quite some misconceptions

thinksteroids.com

Yeah that’s why most people chose the lcms option that’s more accurate and uncapped

 

[klokke23]

Yeah that’s why most people chose the lcms option that’s more accurate and uncapped

Which test is the standard? I mean if I go to any walk in clinic without specifying what test I want. Which one will I likely be getting?

 

[Ferenor]

@purplepandalabs Test E (300 mg/mL):

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Primo (100 mg/mL):

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Tested by @janoshik

Are those finished products?

 

[ConfusedAF]

Are those finished products?

Yep, and blind tested

 

[ConfusedAF]

From my experience, it doesn't last. It will go back to being a PIA to inject after awhile if it is indeed scar tissue.

I just tried pinning my right VG (after a month rest), and it's a bit painful when inserting the needle. Additionally, the plunger was really difficult to push. I think it's in a much worse condition compared to my left VG (pinning was smooth after a month rest).

What should I do to fix this? Do you think it can heal if I just let it rest for 2 months?

 

[Ryu82]

What should I do to fix this? Do you think it can heal if I just let it rest for 2 months?

Deep tissue massage to try and break up the scar tissue is what I often see recommended.

 

[ConfusedAF]

Deep tissue massage to try and break up the scar tissue is what I often see recommended.

If I just leave it for a few months, would the scar tissue go away by itself? I plan not injecting that site for a while

 

[Ryu82]

If I just leave it for a few months, would the scar tissue go away by itself? I plan not injecting that site for a while

It might dissipate a little, but to help out just jab your thumb in there and give it a good painful rub now and then. Stretch your glutes too just for extra fin.