Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

For the record, I don't get anything out of any testing and posting for QSC

I share my results for everyone. I want more people to homebrew. Control your oils you use.


I have always been happy with the raws I have received. Also peptides
Well, it is appreciated by the community. There should always be testing by the supplier themselves with some thrown in random checks by regular users. Not perfect, but it is the best we can do.
 
Well, it is appreciated by the community. There should always be testing by the supplier themselves with some thrown in random checks by regular users. Not perfect, but it is the best we can do.
I don't understand how people can buy powder and not test it.

Blows my mind. What if they mixed it up and mislabeled it? It's cheap to do so. Especially with someone like testosterone.
 
I realize the significance of this is going to be somewhat debateable, and despite the fact we talk about "peptides" as a uniform group of compounds they vary tremendously from one to another, so it's always hard to generalize about things like storage, or in this case, filtration and the the significance of immune reactions.

For me, if I'm getting PIP from a peptide, it's not the discomfort that concerns me, but what else may be going on as a result from that immune response.

While everyone wants definitive answers, the only thing we (and the FDA and Pharma) know for sure is the range of possibilities of injecting some deformed protein is from nothing to catastrophic. This risk is somewhat limited in pharma produced peptides manufactured and reconstituted under controlled conditions. They can guess what "worst case" scenario might be by running a simulation of all the ways a protein could break down and reform, and how strongly of an immune reaction those could induce.

We don't have anything like those controlled conditions with UGL compounds reconstituted with random BACs, at random PHs, and random concentrations (the last one is ridiculous, every peptide should have a clear "standard" for dilution ratio).

If I'm getting a site reaction, that's a warning sign as far as I'm concerned, and for those peptides especially, it's worth 5 minutes and $1 to filter the vial to reduce my exposure to some randomly formed protein that no one has ever considered as possibly being injected into a human.
No debate here. I should filter. I appreciate the information as always!
 
Anyone remember when Chinese Generic GH first became popular? It was often causing painful welts when you injected it. People always use to speculate it was because it was 192aa vs 191. However, I was always a bit skeptical of that as the pharm grade 192 when they existed didn't usually.
 
No debate here. I should filter. I appreciate the information as always!

I think I'm sensitive to the idea injecting "random mutated proteins" because I lived in the UK when CJD (aka Mad Cow disease) started appearing (and couldn't give blood for a long time because of it).

TLDR, some beef ended up with misfolded proteins in it (called prions). The shape of this fucked up protein would cause other proteins to misfold.

After eating this deformed protein, if it made its way to your brain, anywhere from 15 months to 30 YEARS later symptoms like memory loss would slowly appear. Irreversible decline would follow as a chain reaction of protein after protein would misfold in the brain, creating visible holes, and a horrible, protracted death would follow.

Could such a mutation happen in the wild west of peptide self experimentation we're playing in? Unlikely, sure. But not impossible, and the more we stray from the beaten path of pharma protocols by mixing random aminos together under all sorts of random conditions....

There's the old adage of "A million monkeys pounding away on typewriters long enough will eventually produce the complete works of Shakespeare".

"I don't GAF and pin all sorts of shit it without paying attention to any of your crap and was fine, so there".*

Check back in a couple of years, or decades.

*then he returned to his typewriter
 
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I doubt it man, they won't even allow me to add a few kits of 3ml BAC water without adding shipping cost .

This is like asking me to give you bac water for free

The bac water is in seperate warehouse and costs $10 if its usps priority shipping is also not charged it’s like adding it for free, it makes no sense, so if you want bac water you should obviously pay for its shipping cost
 
@Qingdao Sigma Chemicals Could you inquire with the raws supplier of your HMG as to possible reasons for the strong injection site reactions that users here see? As shown in the link provided by Ghoul, pharma-grade rHMG should not cause these reactions. Thanks!

Pin your rear delts and you will be fine.
Maybe it’s just you, if it was a feedback that many reported it might worth the question but if it’s from one feedback only we can’t question the raw yet
 
This is like asking me to give you bac water for free

The bac water is in seperate warehouse and costs $10 if its usps priority shipping is also not charged it’s like adding it for free, it makes no sense, so if you want bac water you should obviously pay for its shipping cost
Okay no problem, maybe if the sales rep could explain that to me instead of just giving answers of two or three words then I would never have had any reason to complain.

I am trying all day to place two orders but no luck so far.
Should I just send the funds to the usual address and then the sales rep can confirm whenever they check the WhatsApp?
 
i dont know why people buy bac water from ugl vendors anyway, Its such a ripoff and no telling how long the shits been sitting around , Hospira is the only "safe" bac water imho , never heard of anyone complaining about welts/stinging etc when using good bac water ,,,, not to say ugl bac water is necessarily bad ,but,,,,
 
Okay no problem, maybe if the sales rep could explain that to me instead of just giving answers of two or three words then I would never have had any reason to complain.

I am trying all day to place two orders but no luck so far.
Should I just send the funds to the usual address and then the sales rep can confirm whenever they check the WhatsApp?

Because probably she doesn’t know neither, they just do the machinery work, when they asked me can the buyers add bac water, I answered “no” without explaining.

In order to get smooth process with my assistants while placing the orders, stick to the ordering form.

If there is some technical questions you can ask them here, the who, why, where, when .. they don’t know it.
Order. Here is payment info. Paid here is proof. Here is your tracking.
 
Okay no problem, maybe if the sales rep could explain that to me instead of just giving answers of two or three words then I would never have had any reason to complain.

I am trying all day to place two orders but no luck so far.
Should I just send the funds to the usual address and then the sales rep can confirm whenever they check the WhatsApp?
i have better luck using whattsapp ime
 
i dont know why people buy bac water from ugl vendors anyway, Its such a ripoff and no telling how long the shits been sitting around , Hospira is the only "safe" bac water imho , never heard of anyone complaining about welts/stinging etc when using good bac water ,,,, not to say ugl bac water is necessarily bad ,but,,,,

Because it’s cheap and convenient
$10 for 10 vials , domestic and international.
And tested by jano, unlike the hospira batch you will be getting.
 
Because probably she doesn’t know neither, they just do the machinery work, when they asked me can the buyers add bac water, I answered “no” without explaining.

In order to get smooth process with my assistants while placing the orders, stick to the ordering form.

If there is some technical questions you can ask them here, the who, why, where, when .. they don’t know it.
Order. Here is payment info. Paid here is proof. Here is your tracking.
Thank you very much for clarifying that.
Would it be possible to ask the WhatsApp reps to check It more regularly?
I am worried that I will miss out on the items I want to purchase because they will be out of stock if I cannot confirm my order soon.
Or should I just send my order by email as well and see who replies first?
 
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