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Question about rest pauses
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Grizzly
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Rest until you feel that you're rested enough to complete your next set.
The Animal
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2-3 minute is fine, but keep it intense, and don't lose the pump.
Grizzly
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And don't listen to Animal. The pump is completely irrelevant.
The Animal
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Right, don't listen to Animal. The pump is the last thing you want during a workout this fucking guy.
The pump is a useless indicator for sure. Anywhere from 1-5 minutes is appropriate, and varies based on amount of musculature involved as well as which system of the body you want to tax most. But that's too long winded to explain, when 2-3 minutes is fine for most purposes. Squats and Deads being the main caveat here.....You do those I hope?
But your subject heading was asking about Rest/Pause sets. That's all together different.
But your subject heading was asking about Rest/Pause sets. That's all together different.
Grizzly
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The Animal said:
Not the last thing, but it IS absolutely and entirely inconsequential and irrelevant to whether or not your workout is effective.
The Animal
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You are right because I've noticed something at the gym. I walk around the gym pump up to the point where I feel my skin begining to tear apart and peolple won't even look my way because it's destracting them mentally from there workout. And when I feel the pump begining to diminish an hour into the session I say that it; it's a wrap. I've been schooled by PROFESSIONAL bodybuilders throughtout the years, and they say the same thing. Maybe it's just genetics. I've gained almost 40 pounds of rock hard solid muscle and never ever JUICED!!
Sometimes I get pumped just on a walk to the can.
Sometimes I get pumped just on a walk to the can.
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Girth said:
I've been working squats into my workout. I've had a couple of knee surguries from sports injuries so I've gotta be careful.
As far as dead lifts, they seem to work out alot of different muscle groups.
I've been starting the doggcrapp routine, so when would be the best time to do the deads?
NPayette
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The Animal said:
When we say it's not a indicator it doesn't mean that if you have the pump it's a bad thing either.
But just do 2000 push-ups, you will have a tremendous pump in the chest, does that mean it was a fvckin good mass building workout??? HELL no!
Dionysus said:
My understanding of the dc method was to only wait about 20 seconds or so between sets.The way I've been doing it is: 1st set to failure rest 20 sec.,2nd to fail rest 20 sec and 3rd set to failure and spotter does a forced rep. I normally wait untill my breathing is back to normal,about 20-30 seconds.The point is to only get a total of 11-15 total reps.
The Animal
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I was trained keep it intense, to try to maintain a pump in the areas I'm working, and if I lose it, I lost the whole point of the workout. Of course you haven't wasting all of your time because you're not at home sitting on your ass doing nothing. Sometimes you feel like resting, but sometimes you have to mentally block it out and begin the next set. I'm sick of people at the gym sitting on their ass not doing anything, hogging the machines because they are too damn lazy to begin the next step. Do your sets and get the fuck on. 
Grizzly
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Well, whoever trained you is a retard. I don't care if he's a pro, either. You won't find much love for those folks here. The pump is irrelevant. Go ask Pudz if trains for a pump. Then cry as you watch him lift 400+lbs overhead and wait 5 minutes inbetween sets, all while looking like a fucking Greek statue.
The Animal
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Well if people pay me to train them for what ever it my be, what does that make me? So I can't get any love because of that? Man..... I don't give a fuck about getting loved from anyone but my people back home. And I could give a FUCK about who presses what because I see the shit everyday and it's nothing but a re-run you heard what I'm saying. You do what you do, and I'm going to do mine.
Dionysus - MikeP explained the rest pause sets that DC preaches about in his training. I won't comment on DC training, as many are successful with it, and the dual factor components are there, in a round about way. I still think you'd be serviced better by a 5x5 routine, if you haven't done it. And with that said, it answers how to work in squats and deads. If you want to continue with the DC program, I think he details how to use them on Intensemuscle.com
As for the injuries, I can't speak to them, as I've been fortunate enough to avoid them thus far. You might want to ask others about the use of Deads and Squats, when you have had such problems.
Animal - You of course can do what you choose. If you are happy, keep at it. I only ask that you give some thought to weight training and cardio being different activities. Long rests allow for greater loads, the point of weight training. Training correctly can cause a pump, but getting a pump doesn't mean you are lifting correctly.
As for the injuries, I can't speak to them, as I've been fortunate enough to avoid them thus far. You might want to ask others about the use of Deads and Squats, when you have had such problems.
Animal - You of course can do what you choose. If you are happy, keep at it. I only ask that you give some thought to weight training and cardio being different activities. Long rests allow for greater loads, the point of weight training. Training correctly can cause a pump, but getting a pump doesn't mean you are lifting correctly.
The Animal
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Well, I don't remember saying having a pump means you are lifting correctly but we were merely debating on weather it was in fact benificial to your workout. I also don't believe that there is only one way to lift. Some may choose to lift for defenition, some may lift for size, some may lift in conjunction with cardio to accelerate fat burning.
Grizzly
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The Animal said:
And it is completely inconsequential to your workout. Period.
