[Question] Any difference between DragonOrdnance and PurplePandaLabs? And what's with all the shady Chinese raw manufacturers?

[username102131]

Hi, I ordered from PurplePandaLabs a long time ago and it went ok. I bought a few years supply, but now I need to restock. It looks like some sites say he is now known to sometimes send fake stuff so I am shopping around for another raw vendor to try.

I found DragonOrdance with some good looking reputation on here and long time vendor... but the site looks like an exact duplicate of PPLs... the comical animations, the pricing structure, the layout... heck even some of the FAQs are exact copy/paste with the same exact grammar mistakes and everything. They both have some female name-sound assistant, "Melody" and "Jade", even though it's probably some fat dude with a smirk who is replying to them. Same shipping methods, same type of presence of forums. Are these not the same people???

And honestly in general, what's with all these shady tactics these guys are always doing? PurplePandaLabs had that weird monkey jar stint that he's now trying to get rid of on his main site now where he pretended to be some other guy. Chances are isn't doing that just once. I get that these are illegal businesses and therefore technically criminals but can you at least not confuse me all the time?? Just trying to get some gear, my Chinese manufacturer friends.

On that note, are there any other power players for raws that anyone recommends who have been here for at least a year? Either Domestic US or International is ok. Thanks.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

They're essentially the same. DO is Panda's cousin or so we were told. They share the same 2 car garage for their raws. Same shipper (to my knowledge) and DO has sent out Panda finished gear in the past. Not sure about now.

i've never heard of Panda sending fake raws. Did you read that on Anabolex? Every source except the 3 that pay them to shill their asses off are scammers according to their fake reviews.

Panda may be a lot of thing's, but he's not stupid. He's in it for one thing and i can't see him derailing the gravy train to rip off a handful of people.

 

[username102131]

Yeah, I agree with you. Seems like knows not to step over dollars to pick up pennies with how far he's taken his business so far.

Nah, I just googled "purplepandalabs reviews" and saw it on multiple sites for recent reviews. Some of them saying that they used to order from them but lately he's been off, which is why I came to a trusted place like here to ask. The same thing across multiple sites can only mean either that it's 1. just an organized attempt at slandering one of the big guys 2. actually true

I just read on DO's thread here that he uses different raw source than PPL. Like seriously what are the fkn chances of that? Do they think I'm stupid or something? Or am I actually stupid and they do use different sources for some reason? Things were so much easier when I could just find a source in 5 minutes on in a reddit community before they starting banning all of those types of communities lol.

 

[nealcaffrey16]

someone just had Panda's Test C tested by Jano and it came back 96% purity. I am sure there are more test results. he's to the testing section for more info and you can make a more informed choice. I agree with MSG's post. I've never dealt with Panda but seems like a pretty straightforward process with predictable outcomes. you either get what you pay for or you get a reship.

 

[Ferret]

I get the impression everyone buys their raws from one location. I've noticed some products everyone runs out at the same time, and certain compounds are made special order with a 5 week lead time and $10,000 min order.

 

[Hardcoreboy]

They are like pharmasource and catcafe...

 

[username102131]

I get the impression everyone buys their raws from one location. I've noticed some products everyone runs out at the same time, and certain compounds are made special order with a 5 week lead time and $10,000 min order.

I am going to need the original source for that profile picture, my good sir.

 

[Forthewin1123]

I personally either deal with a 2 domestic guys or I have 3 china sources.. it's always a gamble..make the odds in your favor best you can. I'm just personally not a fan of the name brands like dragon or panda.. I prefer the more low key email only kinda of sources.. usually prices are cheaper and communication is better..that my experience not a general statement. There was a raw source here that's cheaper then most and just had some testing come back good.. I may take a gamble woth them here very soon.. domestic peptides I ordered from.them went very well..

 

[jJjburton]

I personally either deal with a 2 domestic guys or I have 3 china sources.. it's always a gamble..make the odds in your favor best you can. I'm just personally not a fan of the name brands like dragon or panda.. I prefer the more low key email only kinda of sources.. usually prices are cheaper and communication is better..that my experience not a general statement. There was a raw source here that's cheaper then most and just had some testing come back good.. I may take a gamble woth them here very soon.. domestic peptides I ordered from.them went very well..

Having so many raw sources was not the case when i first got here. Its great it is.

 

[Ferret]

If you notice... on some items almost every company runs out of raws, etc. The majority of these are getting them from one source I believe. One Chemical supplier I emailed wanted a min order of $8,000 and a 5 week lead.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

They are like pharmasource and catcafe...

Are you saying the two of them are in cahoots? Interesting though not at all surprising.

i thought it was weird a while back when dumb ass David took one of his many vacations from posting and couldn't be reached by members, but fag bag Liska was in contact with him.

i wonder where Toni the cuck fits in to all of this? It's some kind of degenerate love triangle full of anal sex, mangy cats and free gear.

How's that for a mental image!?

 

[z666z]

DO and PPL as of right now:

1. Both use the same reshipper in the states.
2. Both use the same stealth. A much better stealth that can't be easily tampered with and is more believable.
3. Both use the same numbering system for their raws.
4. My guess is they are the same raws.
5. Tend to both ship their product 8-10 days after you order.
6. Both packages become traceable about 20 days after it is shipped, and after reshipper receives pack.

PPL tends to have more sales.

The reshipper takes a load off your shoulders knowing customs isn't gonna get your pack like they were doing back in 2019/20.

 

[Hardcoreboy]

Are you saying the two of them are in cahoots? Interesting though not at all surprising.

i thought it was weird a while back when dumb ass David took one of his many vacations from posting and couldn't be reached by members, but fag bag Liska was in contact with him.

i wonder where Toni the cuck fits in to all of this? It's some kind of degenerate love triangle full of anal sex, mangy cats and free gear.

How's that for a mental image!?

Well, when i bought some gear from both of them they had same bank account

 

[username102131]

Well, when i bought some gear from both of them they had same bank account

Did you get raws or semi-finished and what was your experience using?

 

[DollaBill]

This is an older post.. fuck it.. how is PPL’s finished products? I’ve ordered multiple times from them. They do not seem bad. Prices are good. What’s the test results say? I’ve heard ppl under doses.

 

[PrimoBowling]

I have my own theories one the 3. Guess you'd have to ask Kai from formula secrets

 

[PrimoBowling]

This is an older post.. fuck it.. how is PPL’s finished products? I’ve ordered multiple times from them. They do not seem bad. Prices are good. What’s the test results say? I’ve heard ppl under doses.

In 2018 the raw var was pretty good. My buddy roid tested it and it was g2g. After using Bayer rimobolan for months, I know that PPLs primobolan was questionable. Even compared to another private lab I've used it appears under dosed. The test was test. Can't really say more

 

[BobbyDobbsy]

This is an older post.. fuck it.. how is PPL’s finished products? I’ve ordered multiple times from them. They do not seem bad. Prices are good. What’s the test results say? I’ve heard ppl under doses.

Had a terrible experience with Test E from PPL/DO (order was from DO, package had PPL labels). What I thought was just bad PIP from shitty oils turned into a nasty case of cellulitis. I've heard similar experiences from PPL so I'd never buy finished products from them.

 

[Trapjunky]

I have my own theories one the 3. Guess you'd have to ask Kai from formula secrets

Why do u mention Kai lol