Question on 17aa gear

[Adogg4]

what up bros, I have a somewhat odd question

was having a discussion with my buddy the other day who told me that many bodybuilders do NOT take liver protectants while on moderate dosed oral usage, due to the fact that some of the muscle growth produced from 17aa's is due to

the fact that the liver releases igf-1 in response to the stress of processing a 17aa substance, and that if you take liver protectants, such as milk thistle (in particular) it will affect this and you will not grow as much.

So basically, would there be any trouble of running say winstrol or dbol at a reasonable dose of say 50mg/ED for 4 weeks with no liver protectants until after the 4 weeks?

I did some research online that backed up what he was saying, but havent really been able to find any firsthand experiences

 

[ryan400]

Bro I run orals all the time for 7-8 weeks at that dose or higher and every time I have had blood work done my liver values have been fine. I personally think the danger of 17aa orals is not that great unless you are on them for a ery long time at extremely high doses.

 

[ImaBldr]

Bro I run orals all the time for 7-8 weeks at that dose or higher and every time I have had blood work done my liver values have been fine. I personally think the danger of 17aa orals is not that great unless you are on them for a ery long time at extremely high doses.

I'm guessing that there's an assumption of no alchohol consumption as well, given it's effects on the liver?

 

[mr.big]

what up bros, I have a somewhat odd question

was having a discussion with my buddy the other day who told me that many bodybuilders do NOT take liver protectants while on moderate dosed oral usage, due to the fact that some of the muscle growth produced from 17aa's is due to

the fact that the liver releases igf-1 in response to the stress of processing a 17aa substance, and that if you take liver protectants, such as milk thistle (in particular) it will affect this and you will not grow as much.

So basically, would there be any trouble of running say winstrol or dbol at a reasonable dose of say 50mg/ED for 4 weeks with no liver protectants until after the 4 weeks?

I did some research online that backed up what he was saying, but havent really been able to find any firsthand experiences

Do you have any links to info online that you base your research on?
I'm interested in reading. Thanks for the post.

 

[Desibaba]

Just try to avoid the whiskey and tequila shots and ull be okay if you dont go overboard and dont take orals longer than 6 to 8 weeks.