This thread kills me...
Three months ago, there was a similar thread on (the old) meso exactly like this, and almost everyone had nothing but negative things to say about QV products.
It appears that the boards acceptable brands of AAS change with the seasons.....
In all honesty, I've never had that big of a problem with QV. I've used their gear and had good results. IMO, they are just about as good as any other Vet steroids on the market today. I doubt they would rival upjohn test..but how many of us have the money for upjohn cyp to throw in every cycle? So for your money, you'll be hard pressed to do better.