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Poor negro... You will not get your wish to either A) kick my ass or B) keep me off of this board.
jah_live10 said:
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Hogg
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jah_live10 said:
His argument was that he was going abroad to protect us here and that when he leaves, there is no one to protect his family against people like Big Rob, KTCK, Pats, etc.
Also read this part:
Now can you see why I took issue with it? The latter half of the last sentence is where I took specific issue. At this point, we are like the israelis killing palestinians....and as a matter of fact, we are poking our nose in israel's business now too.....it is all bushwa. While I commend those that are proud of their country and would jump off a cliff if the president asked them to, I pity the naivity. Christ, if we are going to fight a war, then let us at least fight a real war.
Do you think the president is going to put his tail between his legs and admit that he fucked up in an election year? Nope, he is blinded by the glory that would come from solving the problems of the middle east, unfortunately, the middle east is a multi-variable equation that cannot be solved by even the most powerful supercomputer.
jah_live10
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Hogg said:
the U.S has been supporting Israel for quite some time now......even tho they commit genocide against the palestinians....its been going on for years...... 1 of the many reasons why everyone hates the U.S
"we"......"we" do not fight wars.....BUSH does not fight wars.........our soldiers do.......Hogg said:
and this war "is real"..........our soldiers are dying....
altho i agree that this war is being fought on false pretences....the world is a better place without Saddamm and his dictatorship.....i do not support Bush's decision to go to war....But i do support our soldiers.
i guess i misunderstood your point.....my bad.....like i said before i agree.........dont forget to vote!Hogg said:
jah_live10
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KTCKSports said:
1) im not black
2) you will always be a sorry sack of shit...i doubt anyone likes you....
3) judging by your post.....you have POOR CHARACTER....which everyone can see....which leeds me to believe your just a lonely loser.
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All of your posts have been on this race issue. You obviously don't care about bodybuilding and all you want to do is play the race card and stir up crap. I am done responding to your nonsense.
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Read all the posts my friend..I did not say anything hatefull. All I said is that I choose( being 100% of my nationality) would be to marry the same as a personal choice to preserve my bloodline..then as usual that shit starts to fly and Im not above getting sucked in and stirring the pot..I have dated outside my race and as a free man can do whatever the fuck I want visa via my opinions. This is not evil ( Its what your fighting for)Wings31 said:
You have no right to call me evil...what... because I dont believe in god. I am still not sure about a higher power but choose to live a more spiritual life and I am not beyond reproach. I have and will continue to make mistakes in my life and by no means am infallable.
I am a very giving person and do alot of charity work including meals on wheels for the elderly ( call me DR EVIL ) I sponser 4 bros in AA and have helped hundreds get sober and stay that way.
I dont understand why the white man is the only ethnic group called for racism ( no one has yet to give a reason ) and voicing an opinion on a board about the issue is not evil when the whole world thinks the same way...anyway good luck over there and I hope you come back in one piece.
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jah_live10 said:
Yes, but now, we are becoming more involved in the day to day arguments over what shall become of the gaza strip and west bank. It is not our country.
Soldiers die, that is true, but consider that the funding for these wars comes from the taxpayer.....the taxpayer is a shareholder in the world's largest corporation. "We" are very much involved as "we" pay the bill for the commander-in-chief's decisions.
True, it is a better place without him, yet I am hard pressed to understand why we have not been able to catch a single arab riding on a donkey along the pakistani border. We have spent billions of dollars only to be eluded by a man with less technology at hand than most high school students.
I do feel for the soldiers who are stuck fighting this battle.
i guess i misunderstood your point.....my bad.....like i said before i agree.........dont forget to vote!
As unfortunate as it is that I will get stuck with jury duty as a result of voting, I have little choice but to participate in this election......no matter how bad Bush is, Kerry cannot be allowed to take power.
Hogg said:
I don't have time to personally make the case that this is a war we need to win, so I will post a long boring article. Don't read it if you do not like long quotes; but I thought that someone might find it interesting.
"The Cold Realities of Our Fight in Iraq" by Karl Zinsmeister
"At the one-year anniversary of the war that removed Saddam Hussein and set Iraq and the rest of the Middle East on a dramatically new path, about 400 American men and women have been killed in action. Each of those lost sons or husbands or daughters is a source of heartache for their families, and for all Americans. They're also a reminder that, as the saying goes, "Freedom's not free."
Right back here in our own land, about 300 defenders of public safety (cops, firefighters, prison guards) sacrifice their lives every year in the process of protecting the domestic tranquility of our streets, homes, and gathering places. That's 3,000 traumas per decade, a bill paid less visibly than war deaths, but just as inexorably. Both sorts of losses are part of the blood price of keeping our civilization secure.
Those dead defenders are the reason all decent Americans stand, snatch off their hats, and place their hands on their hearts when old soldiers or officers of the peace walk down our streets at Memorial Day parades or July 4th celebrations. We honor those who bear physical risks for the rest of the country precisely because we know these are not theoretical dangers, but real perils that claim a considerable number of our bravest citizens each season.
The Americans who have given their lives in battle in Iraq aren't random victims. They were doing their duty in one of the great turning points of our generation.
I reached voting age about the time of the Iranian hostage crisis in 1979. What an excruciating episode that was: 52 Americans held against their will, publicly taunted and humiliated day after day, our government paralyzed. And that was just the opening salvo for a generation of Middle Eastern extremism. There was the Beirut barracks bombing that killed 243 Americans. Then the Berlin discotheque blast. The slaughter of 270 innocent people on the terrorist-downed Pan Am Flight 103, followed by hundreds more on other sabotaged airplanes. In 1990 came Iraq's rape of Kuwait, and the high costs in blood and treasure of reversing that dangerous thrust. Next was the first attempt to bring down the World Trade Center, in 1993, to which the U.S. made no effective response at all.
Two months later the Iraqi plot to assassinate President Bush was uncovered. Then came the Khobar Towers attack in Saudi Arabia, murdering American servicemen as they slept. Al-Qaeda killed 18 G.I.s in Mogadishu, then hundreds in the suicide bombings of U.S. embassies in Africa. The near-sinking of the USS Cole claimed 17 sailors and tens of millions of dollars. And, finally, the singeing, infuriating horror of September 11--with all the psychic, economic, and social trauma that followed.
Looking back, it's clear that we Americans were slow on the uptake, that we failed over and over to recognize that this was not a part of the world we could just ignore in the hope it would leave us alone. Only after repeated woundings, followed by one of the ugliest maulings Americans have suffered in their entire three-century history, did we realize that this is a chaotic, hate-filled, and violent region which urgently needs to be brought to order by more responsible forces.
Allowing the various zealots who populate the Middle East to continue their maraudings against the rest of the world could, within a period of just a few years, lead to the sort of unimaginable holocaust that suicidal fanaticism and modern weapons are now able to produce in combination. International inspectors were taken aback in early 2004 by how far along the Libyan and Iranian nuclear programs were. At the same time we learned that the father of Pakistan's "Muslim Bomb" has been selling nuclear secrets even to psychopaths like North Korea's Kim Jong Il. What other surprises await?
A de-fanging of the Middle East would be an historical event of enormous consequence. And while transforming the Arab world is undeniably a difficult venture, it's no more unlikely than other conversions we've witnessed recently. In the early 1970s, there was a grand total of 40 democratic societies across the globe. Democracy, it was said, simply wouldn't grow in certain kinds of soil. Then stony lands like Portugal, Spain, Greece, Korea, Taiwan, the Philippines, Indonesia, nearly all of Latin America, all of Eastern Europe, and South Africa began to hold free elections for the first time ever. Many of these dramatic turnovers took place in a blink. Today, just 30 years later, there are 120 democracies, and the fraction of the world's population able to elect its own rulers has increased from one third to two thirds. There is nothing absurd about the idea that the Arab lands should be next in that line; in fact, there are many good reasons to press energetically in that direction.
The unprecedented security, freedom, wealth, and opportunity that Americans now enjoy didn't just burst forth out of a cabbage patch. These achievements were created, and then defended many times, by bloody force of arms. If contemporary Americans aren't sturdy enough to bear the sacrifices and sadness occasionally required in defense of our rare way of life, then we don't deserve our inheritance. That is the cold, undodgeable reality we face today in the Middle East.
The military men and women with whom I shared my late-January flight back to the U.S. from Iraq were mostly headed home on emergency leave. A major lost a grandfather. A sergeant based in Germany was going to collect his family, then fly to Arizona for a relative's funeral. A private quietly explained that his wife, six months pregnant, hadn't felt their baby move for some time, went to a doctor, and learned they had lost their first child. "I'm still in shock. We struggled so hard to conceive."
Not only in war, but also in the safety of our homes, life can often be hard. It is always fleeting. Its meaning comes, ultimately, from the ends toward which the life is dedicated.
There are times when the best response, perhaps the only response, to the hard blows of existence is to embrace each lump as a badge honoring the determined striving that produced it. In 1918, Teddy Roosevelt's son Quentin (who had left Harvard during his sophomore year to serve in World War I) was shot out of the sky in one of aerial warfare's early dogfights. German propagandists took photos of his maimed body amidst the plane wreckage and, hoping to dampen American morale, sent one to Mrs. Roosevelt. Rather than letting herself be cowed, however, she insisted that the picture be displayed over a mantel, as an emblem of her family's sturdiness and their pride in sacrifice for a high cause.
What Edith Roosevelt did was both a very hard and a very soft thing. She pushed aside her own grief and expressed admiration and undying love for her son by celebrating his bravery, and refusing to abandon his fight.
As they aggressively attack ancient evil and gently nurture frail shoots of a new good, our military bear many risks in Iraq. They face enemies who aim to kill them, and to panic the American public standing behind them. Our battle against Middle Eastern extremism can thus be thought of as a struggle of wills.
But demoralization can work both ways, and today it is Iraq's insurgents who are facing physical and psychological defeat. In January, U.S. forces seized a letter written by al-Qaeda's mastermind in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, as it was being carried to top al-Qaeda leaders in Afghanistan. The 17-page document despairs that despite their deadly car bombs and the sporadic killing of U.S. troops, the fighters have been unable to push the Americans from Iraq, or to spark mass discord among Iraqis. The letter reports that the insurgents are having trouble convincing Iraqis to join their resistance, and mourns that American forces are "growing stronger day after day."
Al-Qaeda itself is now in shambles. Two thirds of its leaders have been killed or captured, finances have collapsed, communication has been strangled, recruiting is difficult. Iraq's Baath Party has likewise been eviscerated. And other bullies in the region have turned skittish and newly cooperative. While the U.S. will need to grapple against terror for years to come, it is finally on offense, not defense. Having brought the battle to the plotters in their own strongholds, things have turned thankfully quiet at home. And across the Middle East, the most desperate effort of a range of terrorists is now to avoid U.S. forces.
"We are at a breaking point today," Colonel Kurt Fuller of the 82nd Airborne told me in Baghdad, leaning forward for emphasis. "This insurgency is running out of steam. We see many signs that Iraqis want the violence to be over. They want to get on with their lives. They can see we are not quitting, and they are increasingly willing to come forward and help us stand up to the worst elements in their society."
As the reporting in the center of this issue demonstrates, this progress has been won by thousands of U.S. soldiers doing their duty in Iraq. If Americans back at home will exhibit the tough love of the steely Mrs. Roosevelt--celebrating the accomplishments of our sons and daughters by cherishing their sacrifices on our mantels, and multiplying and extending their courage by refusing to abandon the struggle they are waging--then this is a fight America will certainly win."
http://www.taemag.com/issues/articleid.17944/article_detail.asp
big rob
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Okay, I am through with this shit. I post some perfectly hatefull statements directed at some other piece of no good shit that ran his mouth and look what happens. The thread takes a turn for the worse and gets all technical..... Fuck that crap.
Now as far as protecting ones family from the likes of me while they are gone.... I take offence to that seeing as I already stated I have nothing to do with blacks by choice as well as my having nothing but respect for peoples families no matter what race they may be. I only treat those that deserve it like shit. Once again I will say it, you must earn your hate..... So if you are worried about your family while you are gone, it is not me you should worry about. Michael touch my pee-pee Jackson, maybe..... Kobe rapist Bryant, definately. Big fuckin Rob, never.....
Now as far as protecting ones family from the likes of me while they are gone.... I take offence to that seeing as I already stated I have nothing to do with blacks by choice as well as my having nothing but respect for peoples families no matter what race they may be. I only treat those that deserve it like shit. Once again I will say it, you must earn your hate..... So if you are worried about your family while you are gone, it is not me you should worry about. Michael touch my pee-pee Jackson, maybe..... Kobe rapist Bryant, definately. Big fuckin Rob, never.....
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