random vials crashing?!

[whoremoan1]

Where are you storing the vials that's so cold and please don't say your fridge lol

hahaha nah, big box on the floor against the wall..... the ones in box closest to the wall are the ones that crashed...this time i stored them high up in kitchen where its not as cold

 

[whoremoan1]

In the interest of science you should store them exactly as you did the previous vials to see if stirring was the difference maker in all of this.

very good point, but i dont want to sacrifice any more vials ... i do think it was the cold though, we had a a couple of really cold days and thats when they crashed

 

[BigPapa2600]

This happened to me as well, brewed 23 vials of Tren E, 1.5%BA and 18%BB in GSO, (210mg/ml) using basskiller's calculator. I used a magnetic stirrer and had the oil heated to 65-67C and stirred for about 2 hours. The solution looked clear, beautiful, and suspended well after leaving it stirring that long so I ran it through a .2 micron filter and dispensed into the vials, I noticed that the oil was easier in the beginning to draw into the dispensing syringe then it was when I got towards the bottom. This could be accredited to it cooling down overtime as I filled each vial as colder oil is harder to withdraw, but what I'm worried is that the powder somehow started settling at the bottom of the glass media bottle. The last vials I filled seemed to crash more then the others and I'm worried that the ones that didn't crash aren't dosed as high as the ones that did. At the end of it I noticed some crystals formed at the bottom of the glass media bottle, Not too many to be totally worried about but definitely noticeable. Don't know how tf this happened. Maybe 1.5%BA isn't high enough for Tren E? I had the shit stirring for hours It boggles my mind that any of the damned vials crashed SMH.

 

[BigPapa2600]

I use a little heat for all my brews and never a problem. I believe your issue is cold combined with gso. Sometimes it doesn't take much cold to crash gear especially in thick gso.

Sit crashed vials in boiled water then cover with towel for 10 minutes then shake vials good. If that doesn't get em back into solution repeat process and if that doesn't work let vials sit in boiling water for 10 minutes, but place something between the vials and bottom of pot so they don't rattle and shatter. 10ml vials are tough as shit so they should be fine. Also don't boil vials with punctured stopper, only non poked stoppers.

If you need any more info tag me

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Does this method just work temporarily in your experience? Or do these same vials crash again when introduced to the cold? Have you done this to Tren E? Do you think that the heat of boiling water could possibly damage the Tren? Thanks for all your help man

 

[BigPapa2600]

Well It seems that what I feared has come to be. The vials that were filled last seem to have alot more Tren E crystals in them then the other vials. I'm starting to think now that the vials that didn't crash at all simply don't even have hardly any Tren E in them. The Tren E sank to the bottom of the glass media bottle as I was dispensing. I'm definitely going to have to put all of the liquid back into a beaker and try mixing again maybe this time at a higher temperature and adding more solvents into the solution in hopes that it will hold. I'm even starting to wonder now if Tren E even holds at all in GSO alone. It seems like all the Tren E recipes I see people post on here have at least some MCT or EO in them.
Has anyone ever successfully brewed Tren E in GSO only?