Raw inpurities? Picture

[Samael]

so im trying to dissolve last particles from test propionate in 2/20% ba bb solution.
Its on magnetic stirring hotplate for about 1 hour and there are still some crystal like particles inside.
They just dont want to dissolve.
Any idea whats that?

 

[ickyrica]

so im trying to dissolve last particles from test propionate in 2/20% ba bb solution.
Its on magnetic stirring hotplate for about 1 hour and there are still some crystal like particles inside.
They just dont want to dissolve.
Any idea whats that?

Have You used any heat yet?

Edit, wow... Sorry about that

 

[Rockclimber]

Are you Brewing at 100mg/ml ?

 

[Samael]

Are you Brewing at 100mg/ml ?

Yes its 100mg/ml . This is second time it happend to me from same raw.
First time it happend i just filtered it anyways, of course it was clear in vial once filtered.
But it bothers me, i think it shouldnt be there, and if its raw powder it should be dissolved like rest of the powder. But its not, from supposedly legit raw

 

[ickyrica]

I've had similar experiences. Sometimes I get it, other times I haven't. I would assume it's something to be classified as an impurity but I've always used it and never had any type of issue.

I want to say it has happened to me with test cyp but i can't recall 100%

 

[Samael]

I've had similar experiences. Sometimes I get it, other times I haven't. I would assume it's something to be classified as an impurity but I've always used it and never had any type of issue.

Yes i had no issue as well, even had bloods that confirmed its legit.
But wtf are those particles, they were not in NPP raw i was brewing. Strange huh

 

[ickyrica]

Yes i had no issue as well, even had bloods that confirmed its legit.
But wtf are those particles, they were not in NPP raw i was brewing. Strange huh

I agree that it sucks, lol. I'd love to have an intelligent opinion as to what they are. My guess? One of two things, impurities or part of the raw hormone needs a more substantial chemical reaction to break down (i.e. heat or bb)

 

[Rockclimber]

I have only used purple pandas test prop raws so my education on this is limited however I have never had this happen. It always 100% dissolves into solution quickly. At first I thought perhaps you were Brewing at too high a concentration but at a hundred milligrams per milliliter it should completely dissolve.

 

[master.on]

so im trying to dissolve last particles from test propionate in 2/20% ba bb solution.
Its on magnetic stirring hotplate for about 1 hour and there are still some crystal like particles inside.
They just dont want to dissolve.
Any idea whats that?

Impurities indeed
Time for Anabolic lab to begin testing RAW POWDERS to revive interest?

 

[Samael]

I have only used purple pandas test prop raws so my education on this is limited however I have never had this happen. It always 100% dissolves into solution quickly. At first I thought perhaps you were Brewing at too high a concentration but at a hundred milligrams per milliliter it should completely dissolve.

Well ifs ppl raw powder as well

 

[Rockclimber]

That's crazy. I guess that means that he has purity issues from batch to batch. That's disappointing.

 

[XmadXscientist]

What did you use to clean the beaker before you brewed?

 

[burkeen]

Looks like dirt to me..
But it's really hard to tell by the picture.

 

[ickyrica]

What did you use to clean the beaker before you brewed?

interested in the answer here...

 

[janoshik]

You don't just get any random impurities in raw powders.

Especially the ones which do not have the same solubility properties as the powder. Degradation products etc all have very similar properties - solubility among them.

I can't really tell by the picture, but it seems to me more like the beaker is dirty.

 

[ickyrica]

You don't just get any random impurities in raw powders.

Especially the ones which do not have the same solubility properties as the powder. Degradation products etc all have very similar properties - solubility among them.

I can't really tell by the picture, but it seems to me more like the beaker is dirty.

Could cleaner(ing) residue on the inside of the glass help produce visable substances like what he has shown in the pic? Trying to understand what is going on because I have seen the same thing. If I needed a more thorough rinse procedure I would like to know.

 

[Samael]

Beaker was cleaned with ipa 70%, rinsed with destilled water, ipa again and water and then it was air dried.
I was told it could be a pure ester crystals that wasn't fully attached to a hormone during the esterfieing process.

 

[Samael]

Here are some more pics

 

[janoshik]

Could cleaner(ing) residue on the inside of the glass help produce visable substances like what he has shown in the pic? Trying to understand what is going on because I have seen the same thing. If I needed a more thorough rinse procedure I would like to know.

Yeah, if it was washed by water and subsequently by full organic (like absolute ethanol or chloroform) the minerals dissolved in water could precipitate.

However, according to how Samael cleaned it it seems rather impossible.

Here are some more pics

Thank you, those are much better.

I don't think that could be ester crystals, esters are very soluble - they are indeed the part of the molecule thanks to which we can dissolve hormones in the oil easily. However, I might be wrong here.


If you can somehow scoop and isolate those in a tiny vial / slin syringe, let me know. I'd test those for free.

Or just filter them out.

 

[Samael]

Yeah, if it was washed by water and subsequently by full organic (like absolute ethanol or chloroform) the minerals dissolved in water could precipitate.

However, according to how Samael cleaned it it seems rather impossible.



Thank you, those are much better.

I don't think that could be ester crystals, esters are very soluble - they are indeed the part of the molecule thanks to which we can dissolve hormones in the oil easily. However, I might be wrong here.


If you can somehow scoop and isolate those in a tiny vial / slin syringe, let me know. I'd test those for free.

Or just filter them out.

Ill try to get em out and let you know if i was successful, thanks mate!