Raw inpurities? Picture

Yeah, if it was washed by water and subsequently by full organic (like absolute ethanol or chloroform) the minerals dissolved in water could precipitate.

However, according to how Samael cleaned it it seems rather impossible.



Thank you, those are much better.

I don't think that could be ester crystals, esters are very soluble - they are indeed the part of the molecule thanks to which we can dissolve hormones in the oil easily. However, I might be wrong here.


If you can somehow scoop and isolate those in a tiny vial / slin syringe, let me know. I'd test those for free.

Or just filter them out.
Thank you sir.
 
Yeah, if it was washed by water and subsequently by full organic (like absolute ethanol or chloroform) the minerals dissolved in water could precipitate.

However, according to how Samael cleaned it it seems rather impossible.



Thank you, those are much better.

I don't think that could be ester crystals, esters are very soluble - they are indeed the part of the molecule thanks to which we can dissolve hormones in the oil easily. However, I might be wrong here.


If you can somehow scoop and isolate those in a tiny vial / slin syringe, let me know. I'd test those for free.

Or just filter them out.
Even plain pharmacy alcohol can be very effective (and cheap) to wash some impurities out.

Steroids are mostly insoluble in water
i.e. Testosterone enanthate (< 0.5 mg/ml)
and just slightly soluble in alcohol Soluble in ethanol (17.3 mg/ml)
https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/content/dam/sigma-aldrich/docs/Sigma/Datasheet/5/t163dat.pdf

Be aware that the ethanol figure is for special lab-grade alcohol that doesn't contain any water (absolute alcohol)
As commercial alcohols from Everclear to pharmacy wounds alcohol (make sure it's ethyl and not isopropyl alcohol) contain some water they will dissolve even LESS Test E than 17 mg/mL.

Water also helps to get rid of water soluble impurities.
Ethyl alcohol + water dries faster than water alone.
Alcohol+drying also helps kill additional bacteria or fungi.

Just wash raw powders by stirring them with alcohol and then gravity filter with a funnel.
While coffee paper filters seem to work fine and withstand alcohol, getting lab filters would be better.
 
Nice and useless writeup.

You do realize that all injectable products are sterile filtered nevertheless, right?
1 I never said or implied that alcohol washing is a substitute for sterile filtration.

2 Weren't you supposed to be busy tossing dice to make up 'HPLC results'?

3 If people like you properly tested raws following PHARMACOPEIA procedures, impurities would never become a problem.
http://www.drugfuture.com/Pharmacopoeia/usp35/PDF/4800-4801 Testosterone Cypionate.pdf
 
I don't really think I have to react to that. Get some help.

That's sad to be honest. Hope it will get better for him at some point
Of course you HAVE to react to that
you lazy, negligent idiot
it's your RESPONSIBILITY to do proper and COMPLETE testing.

Just as an example take a look at one single step in Testosterone synthesis
...this selective reaction consists. in treating the A-4-a'ndrostene- 3,17-dione (I) with acetone cyanohydrin as a donor of hydrogen cyanide...
Patent US2742485 - Method for the preparation of testosterone and its esters


Acetone cyanohydrin is toxic as fuck
...It is extremely toxic...
Safety
Acetone cyanohydrin is classified as an extremely hazardous substance in the US Emergency Planning and Community Right-to-Know Act. The principal hazards of acetone cyanohydrin arise from its ready decomposition on contact with water, which releases highly toxic hydrogen cyanide.
Acetone cyanohydrin - Wikipedia


Literally DOZENS of toxic chemicals are used to synthesize the different steroids.

YOU were supposed to help spotting them. Actually you're even paid for it. Take control of your responsibilities, you lazy entitled idiot!
 
@jano it's all your fault, bro!!
I better get my ass off here now, when my incompetence had been exposed by master.on

Damn
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Did he ever mention exactly what temp. heat he was applying when attempting to brew the gear?? I suspect ester crystals that remain, and may actually need more heat to finally dissolve properly into the rest of the solution/brew.....
Either way, I've seen the same happen b-4.... As long as you're using the proper .22um bottle-top filter, your gear will be just fine...I'm even guessing that the majority of, if not all the crystals will simply remain via the bottom of the beaker when carefully pouring your solution into your filtering set-up, etc...
 
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Did he ever mention exactly what temp. heat he was applying when attempting to brew the gear?? I suspect ester crystals that remain, and may actually need more heat to finally dissolve properly into the rest of the solution/brew.....
Either way, I've seen the same happen b-4.... As long as you're using the proper .22um bottle-top filter, your gear will be just fine...I'm even guessing that the majority of, if not all the crystals will simply remain via the bottom of the beaker when carefully pouring your solution into your filtering set-up, etc...
yup thats the case, thanks for your input mate.
Sent you PM as well with some questions about recipe, thx
 
I have a bottle of test cypionate that looks like that. Actually, it looks more like a crystallized gel at the bottom of the vile. I turn it upside down and it just sticks there. Its clear when I turn upside down to draw from it and using it. Is this safe? , should I be using this?. I haven't experienced any issues as of yet.
 
I have a bottle of test cypionate that looks like that. Actually, it looks more like a crystallized gel at the bottom of the vile. I turn it upside down and it just sticks there. Its clear when I turn upside down to draw from it and using it. Is this safe? , should I be using this?. I haven't experienced any issues as of yet.
Put it in warm water for a few minutes. Report back when amazed and happy.
 
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