Raws and PIP

[Naked.Rug]

Having PIP with raws which are 6 months old - trying to figure the cause so I don't waste effort
Brew was Test E @200mg/mL - 1%BA / 19%BB with Pharmagrade Olive Oil.
BA and BB are 2 years old and had contact with the stopper of the vial (can either be an issue ?)
I'm going to try change the carrier to try, but I'm wanting to know if its worth suspecting the raws have degraded as I did not vacuum seal them when received and they were left as is (double zip-bag).

 

[Rickt]

Ba and bb should last till they are empty. Raws should be frozen when not being used. Never the less cant see they would do anything but get moist. The ba should fix that isue when brewing. I prefer 2 and 18 % my self. Gone all the way to 5 and 25 once by mistake and no pip. Leaving the oil. Pharma oil is ideal. Cant see it being a problem unless you contaminated it some how. Guys do get pip from one oil but not others. Perhaps try gso or seasamy or caster.
Sorry i didnt have the answer. Im suspecting you are sensative to the olive oil.
Try brewing again with new oil and push up the ba.

 

[Nilatac]

What causes the pip is the raw powder itself. Put those in garbage and buy other ester

 

[1tank1]

Brew was Test E @200mg/mL - 1%BA / 19%BB

Why so much BB bro?
I brewed quite a lot of pain free test enth/cyp in the past (250mg/ml) with 8%-10% and never had any issues with it crashing unless I stored it somewhere that was too cold and for too long.

Test prop was the only hormone that I ever needed high bb concentration with (18%). Everything else was fine at 6%-10% and totally pain free.

 

[Naked.Rug]

Why so much BB bro?
I brewed quite a lot of pain free test enth/cyp in the past (250mg/ml) with 8%-10% and never had any issues with it crashing unless I stored it somewhere that was too cold and for too long.

Test prop was the only hormone that I ever needed high bb concentration with (18%). Everything else was fine at 6%-10% and totally pain free.

Decided to do higher BB for the cooler climates. I don't believe BB contributes to PIP (to my knowledge) , if anything I would guess it may lessen it.
Appreciate the input, I may have a fair idea of the cause.

 

[Rickt]

Decided to do higher BB for the cooler climates. I don't believe BB contributes to PIP (to my knowledge) , if anything I would guess it may lessen it.
Appreciate the input, I may have a fair idea of the cause.

Im sure that only the oil (provided u arent alergic) is the only thing that doesnt pip. Everything else is nothing like blood or muscle so the body rejects it. Ba to my knowledge is the worst. Then the raws and bb last. But that is just my opinion. Ask in the homebrew area. Or my good mate megadick2000 would know for certain if you want to track him down. He is hard to find tgese days.

 

[Nilatac]

Im sure that only the oil (provided u arent alergic) is the only thing that doesnt pip. Everything else is nothing like blood or muscle so the body rejects it. Ba to my knowledge is the worst. Then the raws and bb last. But that is just my opinion. Ask in the homebrew area. Or my good mate megadick2000 would know for certain if you want to track him down. He is hard to find tgese days.

Not true at all. You can use the notorious and classic 2/20 with everything without a pip. Not the solvents causing pip but the raws,ester or concentration
Was a guy here that mistaken bb with ba and said that wasn't so bad and only had a sting
I brew everything with 2/20 even if it's holding with less and don't have any pip if I don't push the concentration too much. Any reasonable concentration is fine instead
Pharma use more bb in their products without a problem.

 

[1tank1]

Im sure that only the oil (provided u arent alergic) is the only thing that doesnt pip. Everything else is nothing like blood or muscle so the body rejects it. Ba to my knowledge is the worst. Then the raws and bb last. But that is just my opinion. Ask in the homebrew area. Or my good mate megadick2000 would know for certain if you want to track him down. He is hard to find tgese days.

I agree bro.

 

[Bigdaddysavage]

Having PIP with raws which are 6 months old - trying to figure the cause so I don't waste effort
Brew was Test E @200mg/mL - 1%BA / 19%BB with Pharmagrade Olive Oil.
BA and BB are 2 years old and had contact with the stopper of the vial (can either be an issue ?)
I'm going to try change the carrier to try, but I'm wanting to know if its worth suspecting the raws have degraded as I did not vacuum seal them when received and they were left as is (double zip-bag).

I find sust with MCT gives me zero pip. Though I agree with the dude that said it's the raws. Same brew with E or Cyp PIP like a mofo.