Readalots Enhanced Testing

[readalot]

Well the products didn’t contain ANYTHING. That’s a big ZERO for you mongoloid. But let’s assume they actually contain metals. Look at any toxicological tables. Arsenic and other heavy metals will have a low low low allowable amount but the metals will have 100x higher allowable amounts. Look it up instead of getting angry and whipping out your tiny penis with the name calling.

You didn't read what I shared with you. I am convinced. Willful ignorance.

Disappointed.

 

[readalot]

Again, this is so obvious that you can't help wonder if these objections are being made in good faith.

Over/under? That's the question I've pondered since I showed up here.

You couldn't pay shills to do a better job. Masterclass.

 

[B Ware]

I paid up. But thanks. I'll take my marching orders from Millard's message. Strong arm sources? How horrible of me. Poor sources. They deserve so much more respect from me. I'm probably at the wrong forum. I thought this was Meso.

Yes, you have be on multiple forums posting up in nearly every source’s threads demanding they get on board and pushing your agenda. If you could prove there was actually a concern then maybe your ranting would have merit. Personally my issue isn’t this crusade or how sources are treated, it’s the way you are going about it. Why are you so adamant on all sources doing these test when your own test have shown no evidence that it’s needed? You claim you don’t purchase from UGLs which makes it odd to find you on these forums. For someone like yourself who doesn’t partake in what everyone else on these forums initially came here for prices don’t concern you, but for the rest of us we will be paying quite a bit more for gear as you are trolling and pushing these sources to go from spending $120 to nearly $500 per product to be tested. Again, purchase something yourself, test it and if you actually find something concerning that we can control then I’ll be at the front of the line with you with my pitchfork.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I donated to and was involved with the ProM GH testing project back in the day, which brought the whole topic of dimers and aggregates to the forefront. I also donated to AnaSci testing. And I currently have a sample with Janoshik and will share the results when I have them. I recently got perma-banned from PM for advocating for more testing, and for shitting on sources who sell untested garbage there.

Even if that were not the case, how would that invalidate any of my arguments, genius?

it doesnt invalidate it. I just asked a very basic question what you have done. It does give people some credit for helping.

You are still comparing buying illegal substances from drug manufacturers and comparing it to buying a house where structures are regulated by a higher entity. It is a poor analogy.

 

[BigNoOne]

Respectfully, that's the worst analogy I can remember reading. Break that one down for my stupid ass please. Wow.

I want to believe you are being a constructive devil's advocate, but then I read absolute mental excrement like that.

meh. They can’t all be home runs.

 

[iris]

it doesnt invalidate it. I just asked a very basic question what you have done. It does give people some credit for helping.

You are still comparing buying illegal substances from drug manufacturers and comparing it to buying a house where structures are regulated by a higher entity. It is a poor analogy.

Well, I have seen you and others mention the ingredients of pharma test or whatever other substance in order to try replicate them in your homebrewing (or even improve on them?).
GH, we have looked at the difference between pharma and ugl here, for example.

So, the "higher entity" you refer to is that, in my eyes.
Despite it being deemed irrelevant in this environment it is often what people here take as a point of reference, whether it then has "any credit" or not.

The house building example, from my very ignorant point of view, makes me think about those discussions.

 

[MyNameIsJeff]

it doesnt invalidate it. I just asked a very basic question what you have done. It does give people some credit for helping.

You are still comparing buying illegal substances from drug manufacturers and comparing it to buying a house where structures are regulated by a higher entity. It is a poor analogy.

As the 'built by illegal immigrants' part should tell you, in this hypothetical example the house was built in violation of building codes etc. Not unlike how Chinese vendors operate under regulations that (most of the time) are not enforced.

Also, an analogy does not have to be perfect to get the point across. Only someone low-IQ would miss the bigger picture and focus on irrelevant details of the analogy.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

GH, we have looked at the difference between pharma and ugl here, for example.

What difference do you think there is?

I love Jano but I think there is so much more to comparing UGL to pharma GH and they do not belong in same realm.

Well, I have seen you and others mention the ingredients of pharma test or whatever other substance in order to try replicate them, in your homebrewing (or even improve on them?).
GH, we have looked at the difference between pharma and ugl here, for example.

my copycat is the recipe as much as I can comparing BB usage and what is the true cause of PIP.

I am discussing USP ingredients. We do not have access to pharmaceutical level ingredients, let alone masteron, trenbolone, boldenone, NPP, are not even seen in the pharma world anymore

The house building example, from my very ignorant point of view, makes me think about those discussions.

Houses built need to be put under inspection to make sure things are up to code which is a necessity. That is regulated by the government and something that needs to be done to deem that it is livable to make it LEGAL.

What we are buying are illegal goods. Testing it to ensure it is what it is an it is at a safe purity.

We can decide to use or not use the product based off of the test results.

The gear we have been using has been quite safe and the problems that arise from most of the gear we have been seeing is not necessarily of how the drug is made.

The issues with the drugs we have been encountering is from
Too high/low of doses(Falls on the user+Brewer)
Drug not being what it is(Brewer)
Too dangerous of compounds(Falls on the user)

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

As the 'built by illegal immigrants' part should tell you, in this hypothetical example the house was built in violation of building codes etc. Not unlike how Chinese vendors operate under regulations that (most of the time) are not enforced.

Also, an analogy does not have to be perfect to get the point across. Only someone low-IQ would miss the bigger picture and focus on irrelevant details of the analogy.

cool

 

[readalot]

higher entity

higher entity

higher entity testing™

Not bad, not bad.

 

[RandallFlagg]

We all knew the heavy metals weren’t in there from the AnabolicLabs project years ago. And it came up several times. Jano had weighed in to indicate that he stopped marketing that analysis because he never detected heavy metals.

Why did you get so obsessed with it?

The endotoxins were new and that was a good one to evaluate. But it’s clear that they are not introduced as part of hormone manufacturing.

Just because our FDA says these things need to be analyzed doesn’t mean that they are or ever were a concern. The FDA is filled with bureaucratic bullshit and inefficiencies. Things that make no actual scientific sense.

Question for everyone though. Knowing that this stuff isn’t a concern, are you still willing to pay $5 more per vial for a cert that confirms this stuff that’s not a concern is in fact not in your vial?

Fuck yeah to your question....willing to spend double or triple for enhanced testing.

 

[readalot]

Fuck yeah to your question....willing to spend double or triple for enhanced testing.

<5 bucks per vial to support surveillance of UGL products. How else will we get the data? Or we can pretend surveillance is worthless. Some prefer not to know with head firmly in sand.

Sources can either lie or get with the program ...AAS shouldn't be grouped in with the standards of common street drugs. Glad to see some domestic vendors appear to have ethical standards. I hope they follow through.

Appreciate the support Brother.

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Why am I here? I'll answer again. To support the creation of UGL products I feel comfortable using based on knowledge we have available from sum total of human history. Test products like a compounding pharmacy. Definitely a great improvement.

 

[Qingdao Sigma Chemicals]

You understand now why I told you that you’re a clown?

All this noise to prove what was proved before, your garbage enhanced testing is useless, no endotoxins no heavy metals even found, I hope the few reactions to your posts of tests made your ego better but we are sorry to tell you that you have zero added value to the harm reduction and you discovered nothing interesting.

So all this spam and FDA BS made you « clowner »
Good luck on useless project 3 and 4 and 5….

 

[Vanargandar]

You understand now why I told you that you’re a clown?

All this noise to prove what was proved before, your garbage enhanced testing is useless, no endotoxins no heavy metals even found, I hope the few reactions to your posts of tests made your ego better but we are sorry to tell you that you have zero added value to the harm reduction and you discovered nothing interesting.

So all this spam and FDA BS made you « clowner »
Good luck on useless project 3 and 4 and 5….

Is there testing for mass floaters?

 

[Millard]

@readalot , Thank you for the extensive lab testing you've provided at considerable financial expense that you took upon yourself, including many tests that, to my knowledge, have never previously been done on UGL AAS e.g. endotoxin testing.

In addition, you successfully convinced several sources to conduct testing that is not regularly done but should be as part of a core harm reduction mission e.g. sterility testing.

Even more impressive is that you accomplished this without community support. You often faced extensive community opposition along with sources and their loyal sycophants at every step of the way. Well done.

Now we have more data which is always a good thing. Fortunately, there were no major problems. It is good that these did not turn out to be an issue of concern in this limited sample testing.

@Dirthand @Sampei

 

[iris]

What difference do you think there is?

I love Jano but I think there is so much more to comparing UGL to pharma GH and they do not belong in same realm.



my copycat is the recipe as much as I can comparing BB usage and what is the true cause of PIP.

I am discussing USP ingredients. We do not have access to pharmaceutical level ingredients, let alone masteron, trenbolone, boldenone, NPP, are not even seen in the pharma world anymore

Houses built need to be put under inspection to make sure things are up to code which is a necessity. That is regulated by the government and something that needs to be done to deem that it is livable to make it LEGAL.

What we are buying are illegal goods. Testing it to ensure it is what it is an it is at a safe purity.

We can decide to use or not use the product based off of the test results.

The gear we have been using has been quite safe and the problems that arise from most of the gear we have been seeing is not necessarily of how the drug is made.

The issues with the drugs we have been encountering is from
Too high/low of doses(Falls on the user+Brewer)
Drug not being what it is(Brewer)
Too dangerous of compounds(Falls on the user)

Hi,
Thank you for the reply, it was past 2am yesterday but will reply to you at some point later.
Have a good day

 

[narta]

Your constant posts also seem like you are just wanting validation from the general public.

Quoted for emphasis.

 

[readalot]

You often faced extensive community opposition along with sources and their loyal sycophants at every step of the way. Well done.

Quoted for emphasis.

 

[narta]

Just a though, you magnificent crusader: moonshine homebrewers don't adhere to FDA GRAS standard.

Go at 'em boi!

 

[iris]

@readalot, I got it all wrong.
I didn't think you were "going after" homebrewing.

My reply to Spaceman would not have been about homebrewers...
I only used him as an example to make a point, how I have seen certain standards are used as a reference point, to a certain extent, befitting one' s purposes.

What I have in my head may be all wrong then....