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legendary said:
@grademan is a necessary evil
@Geterdun I may not always agree with you or your approach but u are pretty much our Rep. So u are a necessary evil as well.

So let's be honest here. Atlas is not doing testing, not helping with testing or blood work. We all get that. So please stop pushing him for it. It's not gonna happen. As far as my lump goes. I've had a number of wkm pm me. 99% think the lump is from the way it was pinned. Now that being said. I tossed both bottles that gave me the lump because it felt a lot different going in then the 1st one. Now when I get my bloods back and if they are good. Yes I will open my last 2 vials and use them.
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Let me tell you something sir. If you think for one minute you telling me Atlas will not get testing will stop me from pushing him for it, your wrong. I don't honestly car if the Pope PM'd you and said the lump was from injecting. I know there was a hair in a sealed vial, there was black floaters in vials and that's unacceptable to me. You better realize Meso is about Harm Reduction, even if your ok with his gear, I'm not ok with it going to people who would never know if it wasn't mentioned. I can't tell you who to support, but I can support my beliefs. I believe this is just another bullshit story from grademan. If I was so wrong from the start, a drama queen and wrong for following grademan; if he is such a good guy why did they wait to say he got new equipment? New equipment after he said we chased him off and he left, but now is back with new equipment? He left remember? Went to BOP because we told him to kick rocks? New equipment after he left everyone hanging, but then come back after BOP seen his bullshit?

We can just agree to disagree, but I will not stop pushing for testing, from Atlas, and every other UGL that's here.

Just curious, didn't I read you were taking antibiotics for the lump? Your building up an immunity for nothing? If your so sure it's bad injection process, how long have you been running gear and how many lumps have you had?
 
grademan said:
Getrdun. I can handle shit pm, what's wrong with that. What the fuck is your problem dude. You always gotta drum up bullshit and drama you little weasel. I bet your know bigger then a popcorn fart. Ironjulius has a lot of respect from me and have know him for awhile. I don't give a shit about you bashing me but quit bashing my friends. Your a ducking keyboard warrior drama queen pip squeak.
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You can handle anything you want via pm, doesn't make it right. If there isn't anything to hide, or personal info involved, why hide it in PM?

As far as Ironjulious, I never doubted you were his friend and found him as a good guy. You two make a good. couple

I'm very smal actually. 6'2" and 214lbs this morning. However, I'm sure if I was to run your gear it wouldn't help that. See, I have no interest in looking like a bodybuilder. I have interest in strength, something I haven't had in almost 16 years. So my small ass will be here to remind all the new members what happened and to do their research. You left I thought? There isn't any new equipment that will change what you sold to members here.
 
Geterdun said:
Just curious, didn't I read you were taking antibiotics for the lump? Your building up an immunity for nothing? If your so sure it's bad injection process, how long have you been running gear and how many lumps have you had?
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No lumps. And if i thought it was me I would not of trashed the gear. It is possible to have injected partially subq. Not saying that's what it is. I look at it from both sides. I'm not to proud to admit I'm wrong. But I go on facts not assumptions. Fact is I have a lump. How I have no idea. Who knows. What if needle was unsterile from factory, alcohol whip was bad. Bad pin or bad gear.
 
legendary said:
No lumps. And if i thought it was me I would not of trashed the gear. It is possible to have injected partially subq. Not saying that's what it is. I look at it from both sides. I'm not to proud to admit I'm wrong. But I go on facts not assumptions. Fact is I have a lump. How I have no idea. Who knows. What if needle was unsterile from factory, alcohol whip was bad. Bad pin or bad gear.
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I hear what you're saying...honestly. However, I'm more inclined to say that the needles and alcohol wipes are less likely unsterile than the gear made by some guy in his basement.

Unless you purchased the needles from a homeless guy, I'm assuming you got them from a store and they were made in a controlled environment, this would also apply to the wipes.

Frank
 
IwantToGetBig.Frank said:
I hear what you're saying...honestly. However, I'm more inclined to say that the needles and alcohol wipes are less likely unsterile than the gear made by some guy in his basement.

Unless you purchased the needles from a homeless guy, I'm assuming you got them from a store and they were made in a controlled environment, this would also apply to the wipes.

Frank
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I agree 100% but like I've said. I can not prove it was gear. I
Stand behind how I feel. Yes I blame the gear. But honestly how do I know for sure. And I'll be honest if floaters never came out I would of just chalked it up to bad pip. It's a snowball effect when one bad thing happens we assume the worst. And yes I'm taking antibiotics. I did not want a infection or cellulitis. Which if gotten getting a general cavity filled at dentist.
 
J408garcia said:
lol bro thats not small
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Bro, trust me, I'm small. I have a lot of ground to make up. I will never be able to support the weight I was back in 2005, but I will continue to grow and build core support until I can't take the pain the added weight will bring back. When your as tall as I am, it takes a lot more to look big IMO. I have made good gains since I started, but not anything that is considered big. I was 217lbs on June 17th, give or take, cut down to 200lbs even and now trying to put back on some quality size. I'm sure I have some water weight as well.
 
legendary said:
No lumps. And if i thought it was me I would not of trashed the gear. It is possible to have injected partially subq. Not saying that's what it is. I look at it from both sides. I'm not to proud to admit I'm wrong. But I go on facts not assumptions. Fact is I have a lump. How I have no idea. Who knows. What if needle was unsterile from factory, alcohol whip was bad. Bad pin or bad gear.
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I inject pretty much sub q every injection. 5/8 needle.

I don't subscribe to the need to go deep or go home [emoji16]

Going sub q will just slow the release of the absorbing rate.

If you didn't have a infection it could have been a allergic reaction; but we will never know truly except speculate what could have caused the lump.

If you do use the other vials, I strongly suggest filtering the hell out of them with a .20 filter or even using a filter need. ( filter needles give peace of mind ) incase that one floater is in there you don't see. I just recently started using them.
 
Roger rabbit said:
I inject pretty much sub q every injection. 5/8 needle.

I don't subscribe to the need to go deep or go home [emoji16]

Going sub q will just slow the release of the absorbing rate.

If you didn't have a infection it could have been a allergic reaction; but we will never know truly except speculate what could have caused the lump.

If you do use the other vials, I strongly suggest filtering the hell out of them with a .20 filter or even using a filter need. ( filter needles give peace of mind ) incase that one floater is in there you don't see. I just recently started using them.
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Good info man. Thanks for trying to help and not flame. Appreciate that's
 
But @CdnGuy didn't you know @IronJulius and @grademan are friends? Also, Atlas bought new equipment, so sounds like he isn't leaving after all. Hope there are new beakers, just to make sure one batch gets made with clean beakers. I know how hard it is to look and sanitize everything like your supposed to. However, I did forget @grademan said his reputation takes care of not having to test and I'm sure this is why he didn't feel the need to sanitize everything. Any chance we can get pictures of this "new equipment?"
 
Either way PC reps need to be dealt with on the matter of mixing on members threads. They are not very well liked and arguments will always begin wherever they are!!!!!! @Darius PharmacomStore . As for grademan I could care less if he stays! THE FACT IS THIS LAB AND REP ARE A COMPLETE LIABILITY! Very unprofessional and a HUGE HEALTH RISK! Anyone who continues to buy this gear will not get any sympathy here if shit goes bad.
 
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CdnGuy said:
Either way PC reps need to be dealt with on the matter of mixing on members threads. They are not very well liked and arguments will always begin wherever they are!!!!!! @Darius PharmacomStore . As for grademan I could care less if he stays! THE FACT IS THIS LAB AND REP ARE A COMPLETE LIABILITY! Very unprofessional and a HUGE HEALTH RISK! Anyone who continues to buy this gear will not get no sympathy here if shit goes bad.
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Agreed.

PC Reps have no business mixing on members threads, the god complex that they have is unreal.

Frank
 
So bloods from other boards, reviews from other boards are no good when transferred here. Why can't someone Rep on another board and be a regular member here? The double standard just makes everything u stick up for seem fake
 
legendary said:
So bloods from other boards, reviews from other boards are no good when transferred here. Why can't someone Rep on another board and be a regular member here? The double standard just makes everything u stick up for seem fake
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And it makes people use different usernames on different boards so you dont know who your dealing with . Incognito .Who uses the same username on all the boards ? The person that has nothing to hide .
 
legendary said:
So bloods from other boards, reviews from other boards are no good when transferred here. Why can't someone Rep on another board and be a regular member here? The double standard just makes everything u stick up for seem fake
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Who are you talking about dude? lol
 
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