Real Atlas labs

I respect the members, that are on TRT or take the blind shot of mystery juice to prove it good/bad for meso......

i wouldn't worry about all the CORNY MOTHERFUCKERS IN HERE as much as the crash dummies
 
What's up with all the bro intimidating shit?
Just shoot it bro, grow a nut sack and buy the stuff..... Starting to seem like the members in here want me to buy this stuff more than the source does.....
 
To anyone soo concerned about bloods & anything to do with Atlas or anyother UGL...
The fuckin prices are decent and there's no minimum order!
This is a pretty ignorant statement regarding injectable products. Wrong board especially for this mentality. This is a harm reduction board and to state that people should just order blindly just because it's cheap is asinine. Everyone should just give money to any and all fly thru sources that come in with a cheap price list?

Obviously you're not here to contribute anything to the Meso community tho given your 9 worthless posts in a year and a half membership. Let me guess "I can't spend all my time online" save the BS remarks. Find your source and get your shit but probably best to keep your ignorant posts to yourself.

I never bothered with bloods in the past. I went by results, which is what I'll be doing this time around. Seems some people want to see bloods to make sure everything is legit. At their prices, you're not losing anything.
Also a pretty ignorant remark. No matter the price taking risks on injectable products puts you up to lose quite a bit. Not saying we all don't take risks with this stuff but why not mitigate as many as possible?

Also it's funny how @grademan comes on to like people's comments regarding "taking the plunge" but completely ignores questions regarding testing.
 
Also a pretty ignorant remark. No matter the price taking risks on injectable products puts you up to lose quite a bit. Not saying we all don't take risks with this stuff but why not mitigate as many as possible?

Also it's funny how @grademan comes on to like people's comments regarding "taking the plunge" but completely ignores questions regarding testing.
Sorry man. I was saying in the past that's what I would do - take the gear and look for results. I see why bloods are important.
 
I'll giv you an example or several actually @G2Ready .....of why your right about pulling the trigger and why you got to have testing.....
1) when i got into this there was nothing to go by except "bros" pumping bs either way good or bad about different labs and sources.
2) Geneza, gen shi, jintani, vermoje, xeno, hulk gear etc all were underdosed garbage etc.
3) naps, and their other affilited sites dragon, jintani xeno 24k now atlas were all scammers or something else.
Alll of the above and more have provided good quality gear. Never problem 1.
Had I not pulled the trigger to find out for myself....I'd still be sitting with my thumb in my ass.
So suddenly we have AL testing....turns out all but 1 in the above tested out with acceptable doseing mg/ml.

But every now and then scammers come thru....like the first Atlas guy.
He didnt get me but it was close within a couple hours...he did get a few guys on here.
Why he didnt get me was due to details in posts etc over that first little bit that didnt add up.
Then @grademan showed up here through another member and atlas 1 disappeared.
Now the real atlas is here...guys are buying product his service is great but until the stuff is tested with bloods and AL....no one really knows how Good it is.
A new guy saying Fuck yeah...thats only cycled a couple times doesnt cut it cuz he doesnt really know how really good gear affects you. And only a few cycles is not enough to know.
So thats why i think pulling the trigger early is cool....but backing it up with solid testing validates the users results and comments about a product.
 
This is a pretty ignorant statement regarding injectable products. Wrong board especially for this mentality. This is a harm reduction board and to state that people should just order blindly just because it's cheap is asinine. Everyone should just give money to any and all fly thru sources that come in with a cheap price list?

Obviously you're not here to contribute anything to the Meso community tho given your 9 worthless posts in a year and a half membership. Let me guess "I can't spend all my time online" save the BS remarks. Find your source and get your shit but probably best to keep your ignorant posts to yourself.


Also a pretty ignorant remark. No matter the price taking risks on injectable products puts you up to lose quite a bit. Not saying we all don't take risks with this stuff but why not mitigate as many as possible?

Also it's funny how @grademan comes on to like people's comments regarding "taking the plunge" but completely ignores questions regarding testing.
You're starting to sound like me. Good points @Do3Gs. Looks like you've got this
 
This is a pretty ignorant statement regarding injectable products. Wrong board especially for this mentality. This is a harm reduction board and to state that people should just order blindly just because it's cheap is asinine. Everyone should just give money to any and all fly thru sources that come in with a cheap price list?

Obviously you're not here to contribute anything to the Meso community tho given your 9 worthless posts in a year and a half membership. Let me guess "I can't spend all my time online" save the BS remarks. Find your source and get your shit but probably best to keep your ignorant posts to yourself.


Also a pretty ignorant remark. No matter the price taking risks on injectable products puts you up to lose quite a bit. Not saying we all don't take risks with this stuff but why not mitigate as many as possible?

Also it's funny how @grademan comes on to like people's comments regarding "taking the plunge" but completely ignores questions regarding testing.
In defense of SOME of the newer guys...they aren't usually very experienced and many of the older new guys dont participate in many if any other online forums.
@T-Bagger....who i dont know from shit posted....you could tell from how it was written he wasnt being a dick or smart ass but that the post was from someone that didnt see the bigger picture yet.
I did a reply from my perspective and i think it widened his picture regarding the situation.
We need to be careful on this board to not alienate some of these new guys cuz they will be the ones to carry this info forward...while we clean house on the fucktards.
I know its can be a fine line figuring out which is which sometimes and I dont know what category this guy fits for sure yet but i think based on his response to me and then to yours he will be one that will stay around.
 
I agree with all the above. Its difficult to just make a random abrupt decision without any reassurance.
 
@grademan Is the list in the opening post still accurate? If not, a periodic updating of your product listing would be greatly appreciated.
 
No haven't seen a reason to yet
So what are you waiting for....
You have multiple posts how your ready etc....you gonna believe lab results that are posted by the ugl?
Im now 6 weeks into 750mg/wk test e cycle ordered when atlas first appeared and your stll sitting at home pulling your pud looking at gear porn.
Cmon man grow a pair pull the trigger...
It can't be poison cuz 6 weeks in I can still fuck with you on here!:confused:
 
I always thought the actual amount of gains are the best test for potency, but at the same time someone could just have better genetics, training, knowledge, diet, response, etc lol.
 
So what are you waiting for....
You have multiple posts how your ready etc....you gonna believe lab results that are posted by the ugl?
Im now 6 weeks into 750mg/wk test e cycle ordered when atlas first appeared and your stll sitting at home pulling your pud looking at gear porn.
Cmon man grow a pair pull the trigger...
It can't be poison cuz 6 weeks in I can still fuck with you on here!:confused:

Why are you pressuring him to "pull the trigger"? Unless I'm misunderstanding your post, its contradicting your other post above regarding precautions against alienating members.

Each person has to assess their own risk tolerance while doing their best to stay objective. Placing a value system on each form of information as to the value of credibility, such as brand new members opinion compared to a long time member is one thing, but even an opinion - long standing member or not - is only anecdotal.

IMO, the best approach to help guide members regarding source selection is to give them tools to properly assess their risk by understanding how much value one piece of information has over another. And in this guidance process, refrain from peer pressure leading to one outcome over the other.

As far as I can tell, that member you quoted is properly assessing his risk by wanting more of what he considers higher value evidence, in the form of testing. There's nothing wrong with that, just as there's nothing wrong with those who choose to just jump in and try. Although IMO, the latter approach carries much more risk on many levels.
 
Why are you pressuring him to "pull the trigger"? Unless I'm misunderstanding your post, its contradicting your other post above regarding precautions against alienating members.

Each person has to assess their own risk tolerance while doing their best to stay objective. Placing a value system on each form of information as to the value of credibility, such as brand new members opinion compared to a long time member is one thing, but even an opinion - long standing member or not - is only anecdotal.

IMO, the best approach to help guide members regarding source selection is to give them tools to properly assess their risk by understanding how much value one piece of information has over another. And in this guidance process, refrain from peer pressure leading to one outcome over the other.

As far as I can tell, that member you quoted is properly assessing his risk by wanting more of what he considers higher value evidence, in the form of testing. There's nothing wrong with that, just as there's nothing wrong with those who choose to just jump in and try. Although IMO, the latter approach carries much more risk on many levels.
Its more the tone of those posts than anything...follow through them and see what you think....I may be wrong about that...if so I apologize.
You are correct....the guy that does risk it and orders early on does expose himself to inherently higher risks.
I look at it like this....
Somebody had to eat that first squid and now we all have calamari. If someone could look at that nasty MF and eat it by golly I can bang a lil oil as a test rat.
But thats just me.
 
So what are you waiting for....
You have multiple posts how your ready etc....you gonna believe lab results that are posted by the ugl?
Im now 6 weeks into 750mg/wk test e cycle ordered when atlas first appeared and your stll sitting at home pulling your pud looking at gear porn.
Cmon man grow a pair pull the trigger...
It can't be poison cuz 6 weeks in I can still fuck with you on here!:confused:

I'm in pct right now, so although I'm pullin my pud looking at gear porn it's for different reasons other than scared to pull the trigger.

Wherent u just posting you felt that gear was underdosed and you would see what ur BW shows at end of week? But yet want me to purchase?
 
No...you are losing if its under dosed etc. Your losing time...a lil money for gear...alot of money for food and if your new and dont know what to really expect under dosed gear will prompt great reviews when it really doesnt deserve them.
I'm doing bloods at the end of this week on a run of 750mg/week atlas test e.
Right now i am questioning if the test is up to speed....ngains are there but there are things that I am familiar with as far as my body goes that are not happening. Such as.....very little fluid retention...scale is not going up at at a normal(for me anyway rate), no ai required and my nuts are still full sized.....So even though Im sure that my bloods will return a higher than natty test level....at 750 mg/week it should come back in the thousands.
I dont think it will.
Does that mean atlas is a scammer...NO. Every UGL can get a batch of under dosed raws.
There are guys in this thread running other compounds that know what to expect and what they are experiencing is consistant with quality products.
So...time will tell for me.
Thats why so many of us rely on blood work to determine quality.
 
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