I'll giv you an example or several actually
@G2Ready .....of why your right about pulling the trigger and why you got to have testing.....
1) when i got into this there was nothing to go by except "bros" pumping bs either way good or bad about different labs and sources.
2) Geneza, gen shi, jintani, vermoje, xeno, hulk gear etc all were underdosed garbage etc.
3) naps, and their other affilited sites dragon, jintani xeno 24k now atlas were all scammers or something else.
Alll of the above and more have provided good quality gear. Never problem 1.
Had I not pulled the trigger to find out for myself....I'd still be sitting with my thumb in my ass.
So suddenly we have AL testing....turns out all but 1 in the above tested out with acceptable doseing mg/ml.
But every now and then scammers come thru....like the first Atlas guy.
He didnt get me but it was close within a couple hours...he did get a few guys on here.
Why he didnt get me was due to details in posts etc over that first little bit that didnt add up.
Then
@grademan showed up here through another member and atlas 1 disappeared.
Now the real atlas is here...guys are buying product his service is great but until the stuff is tested with bloods and AL....no one really knows how Good it is.
A new guy saying Fuck yeah...thats only cycled a couple times doesnt cut it cuz he doesnt really know how really good gear affects you. And only a few cycles is not enough to know.
So thats why i think pulling the trigger early is cool....but backing it up with solid testing validates the users results and comments about a product.