I remember them saying they "wouldn't pay for testing because they have been around for 10 years and there reputation speaks for itself. Everyone knows their gear is good. Why would they pay for testing when when the people that have ever been using them for years know the quality." That's paraphrasing, but basically what was said. My response would be that no one at meso has been using them for years, so no one here really knows the quality of their product. And since they came to meso, a place that demands a little more from Thier sources, they may want to jump on board with the testing. I doubt they will since there have been multiple purchases from this lab already. Full disclosure, I also placed an order. Why reimburse or pay for simec testing, when they can just wait for bloods to trickle in for free? that will still give them the boost they need or want.