Really stuck out at me

[NLM36]

Great post by Dante Trudel about how what made message boards so great. What stuck out to me was “Guys that shouldn’t have a voice didn’t have a voice. Those kind of people were silenced quickly.”
Now it seems like everyone feels they should give input, advice, have a say. Think everyone is equally important. It’s crazy how times have changed. We’ve got mystery posters claiming to be in the know with clear bullshit and guys giving advice on how to cycle, diet, train and grow, who have most likely never touched even a lean 200lbs soaking wet with cement shoes on wearing cargo pants filled with pennies.
Some of you guys really should not respond unless you’re asking for advice.

 

[MindlessWork]

That guy sure would have a real shit fit if he were ever here on Meso.

 

[MindlessWork]

I never been on those old-line boards but read lots of stories about them. Shame there's hardly any of them still around.

 

[NLM36]

That guy sure would have a real shit fit if he were ever here on Meso.

Who Dante? He’s the originator of DC training and the owner of True Nutrition. You can still find the 600+ page cycles for pennies thread, it’s some outdated info but some of it is timeless. He’s created some monsters but he no longer coaches anyone.
He puts out really good info still on his Instagram
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[MindlessWork]

Who Dante? He’s the originator of DC training and the owner of True Nutrition. You can still find the 600+ page cycles for pennies thread, it’s some outdated info but some of it is timeless. He’s created some monsters but he no longer coaches anyone.
He puts out really good info still on his Instagram
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The post of his is spot on and very relevant even now IMO

 

[Test_Subject]

They teach people this “everyone’s opinion is equally valid” bullshit growing up and readily available access to the internet just made it worse.

No, everyone’s opinion is not equally valid. Some people are stupid / uneducated / ignorant and they have stupid / uneducated / ignorant opinions. The idea that that V-shred idiot’s opinions on training and diet are of the same value as Trudell, Meadows et al. is, quite frankly, offensive. Sure, you have the right to have your opinion and I’ll support that wholeheartedly, but that doesn’t mean that your opinion holds any value.

Likewise, there are lot of guys with one cycle under their belt on the forums (not just this one) who are somehow experts on the subject. Hearing bulking advice from a guy who weighs 180 lbs is pretty hilarious. Hearing advice on tren from a guy who has never touched it makes me roll my eyes.

“I heard that…”

 

[Gbro]

They teach people this “everyone’s opinion is equally valid” bullshit growing up and readily available access to the internet just made it worse.

No, everyone’s opinion is not equally valid. Some people are stupid / uneducated / ignorant and have stupid / uneducated / ignorant opinions. The idea that that V-shred idiot’s opinions on training and diet are of the same value as Trudell, Meadows et al. is, quite frankly offensive.

Likewise, there are lot of guys with one cycle under their belt on the forums (not just this one) who are somehow experts on the subject. Hearing bulking advice from a guy who weighs 180 lbs is pretty hilarious. Hearing advice on tren from a guy who has never touched it makes me roll my eyes.

“I heard that…”

Even if they model underwear? That's gotta carry some street cred, right?

 

[The_Dude69]

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Likewise, there are lot of guys with one cycle under their belt on the forums (not just this one) who are somehow experts on the subject. Hearing bulking advice from a guy who weighs 180 lbs is pretty hilarious. Hearing advice on tren from a guy who has never touched it makes me roll my eyes.

“I heard that…”

That is the most accurate part. See it wayyy too often. I’ve seen guys that are NATTY giving PED advice lmao. They watched a couple Greg Doucette and MPMD vids and now they are experts hahaha

 

[Themassterplan]

That is the most accurate part. See it wayyy too often. I’ve seen guys that are NATTY giving PED advice lmao. They watched a couple Greg Doucette and MPMD vids and now they are experts hahaha

MPMD, the greatest cancer to the fitness industry and easily jaded 19 year olds. I’m really getting tired of all the MPMD watcher threads.
“Hey guys, I want to leverage my current pharmaceuticals to supraphysiological levels, except test. Can you tell me if I’m gonna go bald injecting 7.8mgs of cyp ED straight to the dick? I want all of my hair restoration vectors covered.”

 

[Test_Subject]

MPMD, the greatest cancer to the fitness industry and easily jaded 19 year olds. I’m really getting tired of all the MPMD watcher threads.
“Hey guys, I want to leverage my current pharmaceuticals to supraphysiological levels, except test. Can you tell me if I’m gonna go bald injecting 7.8mgs of cyp ED straight to the dick? I want all of my hair restoration vectors covered.”

Don’t forget to “deploy” anavar at 20mg because AIDS patients. That channel is like if you took the worst, most douchey trends in corporate-speak and applied them to gear.

Speaking like that doesn’t make you sound smart; it makes you sound like a talking toolbox.

 

[NovaFlex]

They teach people this “everyone’s opinion is equally valid” bullshit growing up and readily available access to the internet just made it worse.

No, everyone’s opinion is not equally valid. Some people are stupid / uneducated / ignorant and they have stupid / uneducated / ignorant opinions. The idea that that V-shred idiot’s opinions on training and diet are of the same value as Trudell, Meadows et al. is, quite frankly, offensive. Sure, you have the right to have your opinion and I’ll support that wholeheartedly, but that doesn’t mean that your opinion holds any value.

Likewise, there are lot of guys with one cycle under their belt on the forums (not just this one) who are somehow experts on the subject. Hearing bulking advice from a guy who weighs 180 lbs is pretty hilarious. Hearing advice on tren from a guy who has never touched it makes me roll my eyes.

“I heard that…”

I said, PREACH!

 

[The_Dude69]

Don’t forget to “deploy” anavar at 20mg because AIDS patients. That channel is like if you took the worst trends in corporate speak and applied it to gear.

It doesn’t make you sound smart; it makes you sound like a talking toolbox.

Lmaooooo

Sad part is, I actually enjoy his content (his preworkout is pretty awesome too), but pretty much consistently I have to take everything he says as guides for me to do more research because what he says is typically half truths from not fully comprehending a study. His subscribers are annoying as fuck though. Don’t go to his subreddit lmao. “Bro your first test cycle should be 200 test only bro” “I wanna inject a gram of tren into my ass hole” etc.

 

[Themassterplan]

Don’t forget to “deploy” anavar at 20mg because AIDS patients. That channel is like if you took the worst, most douchey trends in corporate-speak and applied them to gear.

Speaking like that doesn’t make you sound smart; it makes you sound like a talking toolbox.

I wonder if he’ll ever go new age motivational quasi Christian.
“This needs to be a season of growing.”

 

[Gbro]

I wonder if he’ll ever go new age motivational quasi Christian.
“This needs to be a season of growing.”

You need to manifest a growth of musculature.

 

[NLM36]

Lmaooooo

Sad part is, I actually enjoy his content (his preworkout is pretty awesome too), but pretty much consistently I have to take everything he says as guides for me to do more research because what he says is typically half truths from not fully comprehending a study. His subscribers are annoying as fuck though. Don’t go to his subreddit lmao. “Bro your first test cycle should be 200 test only bro” “I wanna inject a gram of tren into my ass hole” etc.

I watched one video of his I really liked. It was where he pretty much destroyed some guy saying the most testosterone anyone should ever take is between 325-500mg a week.
I don’t know much about his other content. I don’t really watch YouTube gurus because they all seem to be lying retarded assholes.

Guys I do really respect and listen to are: Dante Trudel, Scott Stevenson, Skip Hill, Phil Viz, Jordan Peters, Shelby Starnes, and Dorian Yates.
Phil Hernon as well (RIP)
Even then I don’t take everything they say as gospel.

 

[Brandaddy]

99% of the reason I come on meso every day is to read the funny comments in response to someone saying something stupid. Lol. You're never going to stop the idiots from posting on am anonymous uncensored board, but I also don't see anyone stopping people from calling out obviously false claims.

 

[NLM36]

99% of the reason I come on meso every day is to read the funny comments in response to someone saying something stupid. Lol. You're never going to stop the idiots from posting on am anonymous uncensored board, but I also don't see anyone stopping people from calling out obviously false claims.

Unfortunately true. However muscle mayhem, ProMuscle, and few others absolutely used to. They would shut shit down and silence guys immediately. It could happen it just doesn’t

 

[rfan2020]

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Great post by Dante Trudel about how what made message boards so great. What stuck out to me was “Guys that shouldn’t have a voice didn’t have a voice. Those kind of people were silenced quickly.”
Now it seems like everyone feels they should give input, advice, have a say. Think everyone is equally important. It’s crazy how times have changed. We’ve got mystery posters claiming to be in the know with clear bullshit and guys giving advice on how to cycle, diet, train and grow, who have most likely never touched even a lean 200lbs soaking wet with cement shoes on wearing cargo pants filled with pennies.
Some of you guys really should not respond unless you’re asking for advice.

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Great post by Dante Trudel about how what made message boards so great. What stuck out to me was “Guys that shouldn’t have a voice didn’t have a voice. Those kind of people were silenced quickly.”
Now it seems like everyone feels they should give input, advice, have a say. Think everyone is equally important. It’s crazy how times have changed. We’ve got mystery posters claiming to be in the know with clear bullshit and guys giving advice on how to cycle, diet, train and grow, who have most likely never touched even a lean 200lbs soaking wet with cement shoes on wearing cargo pants filled with pennies.
Some of you guys really should not respond unless you’re asking for advice.

cliffnotes

"im angry get off my lawn"

 

[rfan2020]

They teach people this “everyone’s opinion is equally valid” bullshit growing up and readily available access to the internet just made it worse.

No, everyone’s opinion is not equally valid. Some people are stupid / uneducated / ignorant and they have stupid / uneducated / ignorant opinions. The idea that that V-shred idiot’s opinions on training and diet are of the same value as Trudell, Meadows et al. is, quite frankly, offensive. Sure, you have the right to have your opinion and I’ll support that wholeheartedly, but that doesn’t mean that your opinion holds any value.

Likewise, there are lot of guys with one cycle under their belt on the forums (not just this one) who are somehow experts on the subject. Hearing bulking advice from a guy who weighs 180 lbs is pretty hilarious. Hearing advice on tren from a guy who has never touched it makes me roll my eyes.

“I heard that…”

also ridiculous are guys at 14 percent giving diet advice and guys who are on mediations for BP telling guys how to not get high BP or what med to take to be like them

overall I agree opinions are not equal, that is why I am not for democracy and this country has turned to shit, useful,,inner city,,fast breeding idiots getting an equal vote.

when mcdonalds determines where to locate a new mcdonalds, what wages are, what to set prices as, the cashiers don't get an equal vote, the people with a brain decide

 

[dennia]

@NLM36 Remember the Connor pool?

Why don’t we ban you from the forum for wanting to set a precedent that people should be silenced or censored because you find them annoying and don’t agree with what they’re saying.

I don’t disagree with you that he’s retarded or annoying but you could just put him on your ignore list and never see his posts again.
lots of guys post way dumber shit and stuff thats actually counter productive or harmful. hell there’s sources here that deserve a ban before Connor. The great thing about this board is the fact it’s not censored and nobody is silenced. when you start down that path it’s a very slippery slope.
In his defense as far bodybuilding or steroid forums go atleast he has a good physique.

This place is for all of us who use steroids and other peds. This isn’t a gathering of academics, formal debate or lecture. Its a forum full of misfits and drug users lol. This isn’t a science forum. It’s a steroid forum. We ask sources to show us pictures of tits.
There was a guy talking shit about my wife but I don’t want him banned. I think it’s funny

With the standards and expectations you have it simply sounds like the one who is out of place here is you.
If they banned every idiot then this board wouldnt exist