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Reddit: you perform the same on TRT and natty

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effswithtren said:
Reddit is dumb and its posters are dumb. I’m not convinced that half of their experience threads are even based on personal experience. I choose to read their compound experience threads mostly as steroid fanfic.
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There is a mix of real people and bots. I don't know the ratio. They all tow the line, supporting the status quo, like a hivemind. A lot of it is fan fiction.
 
lukiss96 said:
Whoever believes this, should try 200mg and then go back to natural. It's not only reddit, plenty of people in this forum who think of more ridiculous things. It's just humans.
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I would think that having the same free test natural vs trt may not play as huge of a role. Obviously it depends ultimately on what your "replacement dose" is.
 
Cridi887 said:
I would think that having the same free test natural vs trt may not play as huge of a role. Obviously it depends ultimately on what your "replacement dose" is.
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I don’t think it is the same, let me explain my thought process and see if one of the more knowledgeable guys can chime in if I got this wrong.

Natural levels are highest in the morning and drop during the day while exogenous testosterone levels are more stable.

A natty guy that test 900ng/dL in the morning might be at 500ng/dL by bedtime, while someone on trt will still be around 900. That is a lot more area under the curve (so more saturation of androgen receptors, etc). A bad nights sleep won’t drop a trt guys test levels either. Over time those consistently top-of-the-range numbers surely make a difference.
 
ImHereForBothReasons said:
I don’t think it is the same, let me explain my thought process and see if one of the more knowledgeable guys can chime in if I got this wrong.

Natural levels are highest in the morning and drop during the day while exogenous testosterone levels are more stable.

A natty guy that test 900ng/dL in the morning might be at 500ng/dL by bedtime, while someone on trt will still be around 900. That is a lot more area under the curve (so more saturation of androgen receptors, etc). A bad nights sleep won’t drop a trt guys test levels either. Over time those consistently top-of-the-range numbers surely make a difference.
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That's a good point. A good study would have to have it tested constantly.

I looked up some studies and it said up to +/- 30 percent variation.

But you are right. You are not at the mercy of other variables with injection.

My natural peak when I was tested was 460(7am). I suck ass
 
HB_22 said:
It's still bullshit. Most don’t even do blood work to see their hormone levels. And if they do and see it's elevated above reference range they just keep the dose as it is bc "they feel great, so why change it".
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That's true. As a person I'm guilty of desired effect + feel good = no change, even if it's not optimal. However, I call it just as it is a cruise.
 
I’d estimate half or more of the steroids sub has never even used steroids. It’s clear by none of them knowing jack shit and all asking noob ass questions like “how much AI do I need for a 250mg test blast”

God those people are intolerable
 
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