Turkeybuilder's first cycle! SUBQ ONLY!

I appreciate the advice and another perspective. You really think i’ll loose gains on a cut even if i’m on 200test a week, hit my protein, and train hard?

I only planned on doing a small maintenance period before a cut
You are doing the most important things correctly, monitoring your health. As long as you keep that up you can run as many cycles as you like.

If you end up cutting down to 8-10% body fat and realize you should have listened to these guys, well, just run another bulking cycle at 500. You'll be fine.

I totally understand your desire to cut right now, I personally like to stay leaner. My goal isn't to be a meat head (kind of a sin to say that on this forum lol). But it's my goals and what works for me.
 
Sure he can do things incorrectly if he wants but I’d assume because he posted in this forum he wants advice on how to do things right he just has to take our advice.
Fair enough, but his experiments put me off going sub-q on my first cycle though, so he's at least added to the collective good :-)

Also while I'm here (I'm going towards finishing my 4th week on my first cycle) - you say don't stop until week 20 if things are going good. How can you tell things are going good in the bloods - no mad E2 or whatnot? My own biggest concern is killing the ability to return to natural T production if I keep going for too long.
 
Fair enough, but his experiments put me off going sub-q on my first cycle though, so he's at least added to the collective good :-)

Also while I'm here (I'm going towards finishing my 4th week on my first cycle) - you say don't stop until week 20 if things are going good. How can you tell things are going good in the bloods - no mad E2 or whatnot? My own biggest concern is killing the ability to return to natural T production if I keep going for too long.
You need to do a lot more research man. Should have done that before you started. All the information you are looking for exists in this forum. Use the search function. You can start by searching for "blood work" and "pct".

Here, I'll even throw you a bone

If you're concerned about natural T production remaining, don't do steroids. When you PCT off you're going to lose all the gains any way.
 
I think my question sounded more naive than I am. I've done my bloods before I started and I think all my markers are very healthy - going to do them again at 6 weeks into cycle. I was wondering what in particular would put you off having an extended cycle from 16 to 20 weeks, rather than what in general to look out for in blood results. I will continue searching the forum though - and I will be studying my 6 week results.

Anyway I'm hogging this dude's thread talking about myself :oops:
 
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