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Benf15harp
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He said “BUYER BEWARE. SOURCE DOESN'T TEST RAWS AND DIDN'T PROVIDE ANY PROOF OF USING STERILE AMPOULES.”
None of them test raws or have any proof of sterile vials or amps
You gents have a higher standard than I do.
As long as I don’t have to wipe boogers off the vials or see turds in the vials then I’ve gotten what I expected lol
Benf15harp
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in Case I failed to mention this in the beginning. I couldn’t give a flying off the top rope fuk if anyone uses this source or not.
Benf15harp
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Also, you really think Marcus just picked some random vials to send off for more expensive elaborate testing? No fuking way. I’d say they were specially made and cherry picked to make sure they were as perfect as possible. Its doubtful and probably impossible to expect all the other 100’s of thousands of vials are of the same quality.
And hell HYB just sending out random pills
And who knows what you’re getting in his oils
I threw all his shit in the ocean.
Point here is there’s a level of trust required with all these vendors because you can never say with 100% certainty you’re getting exactly what they claim. Even if you test 1 vial that doesn’t necessarily mean the other 9 in the kit are the same.
TestyisBesty
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100000%Also, you really think Marcus just picked some random vials to send off for more expensive elaborate testing? No fuking way. I’d say they were specially made and cherry picked to make sure they were as perfect as possible. Its doubtful and probably impossible to expect all the other 100’s of thousands of vials are of the same quality.
And hell HYB just sending out random pills
And who knows what you’re getting in his oils
I threw all his shit in the ocean.
Point here is there’s a level of trust required with all these vendors because you can never say with 100% certainty you’re getting exactly what they claim. Even if you test 1 vial that doesn’t necessarily mean the other 9 in the kit are the same.
I’m glad others get it. Test this for that test that for this.
Anyone can do a great job on one particular task if needed, that doesn’t mean It’s gonna always get the same treatment.
Trenbolonetax
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So what should we do instead since vendor testing is meaningless?
It at least makes them prove they have capability of producing a product that checks harm reduction boxes
AndrewBailey
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Okay, I finally tried the injection gun, and I’ve gotta say - this thing is amazing
I was super nervous at first because I usually stick to glute shots (no way I’m pinning my quad with a regular syringe).
But I went for the quad this time, and I didn’t even feel the needle. It was completely painless, which honestly surprised me. The only downside is that it takes a bit of time to get used to loading everything properly, but once i figure it out, it’s super smooth. Definitely a cool experience overall
Ps as for the raws honestly, I don’t get what all the fuss is about
I was super nervous at first because I usually stick to glute shots (no way I’m pinning my quad with a regular syringe).
But I went for the quad this time, and I didn’t even feel the needle. It was completely painless, which honestly surprised me. The only downside is that it takes a bit of time to get used to loading everything properly, but once i figure it out, it’s super smooth. Definitely a cool experience overall
Ps as for the raws honestly, I don’t get what all the fuss is about
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accidentaljedi173
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We know this is an alt account. Stfu
Trenbolonetax
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Cool story bro so can you ask for the raw test results and then upload it when you get it? As a new member, do your part to help the community even if you don’t understand or care.
That would be appreciated by many. Thanks.
TestyisBesty
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Show me were I said vendor testing is meaningless please …..
What’s being overly pushed is meaningless. 90% of vendors test thru Jano. The extra testing is a joke
readalot
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You are the marketing/public affairs executive I need for all this. Unfortunately the pay is trash. It is actually negative. Good cause? I like to think so. Too many get away with too much.
readalot
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Volume injected?
Needle Guage?
Injection speed/force adjustable as stated by vendor?
His description was completely inconsistent.
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Trenbolonetax
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You didn't explicitly state that vendor testing is meaningless. But one doesn't need to be explicit; I used deductive reasoning.
I'm too lazy to pick apart each quote and pull out exactly what I used to get to that conclusion, but essentially:
If vendors can just cherry pick vials and send their "special" ones into Jano for testing, that invalidates the benefit of vendor testing. Whether that's in depth sterility or simple concentration / chemical identification.
I agree that vendors can do this. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, either.
My point is that there is benefit to a vendor providing proof via testing that they can:
1) make an accurately dosed product
2) make a sterile product
3) whatever the fuck else. They prove they are capable of production to certain standards
You're right that this is no proof each vial will be equal. However, it's at least proof they can and are capable of doing so, and are willing to prove it.
In Redmond's case, it goes deeper than this though. He made some bold claims. And he hasn't backed them up.
If he didn't make bold claims, I wouldn't ask him to back up those specific claims.
So, I guess my question to you is: what vendor testing is worthwhile and which are a joke, and why?
Using the logic of vendors sending only their special vials in for testing means that all vendor testing is a joke, no?
Benf15harp
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Hmm. Doesn’t this vendor have tests for all of their products? Wouldn’t that prove they have the capability to produce products that check the harm reduction box?
Also, they told us where they get their raws from which I’m sure BST and probably 75% of the other vendors on here get them from the same place and that is satisfactory.
Now let’s talk laboratories and cleaning
This vendor doesn’t feel comfortable providing those pics due to possible law enforcement issues. Ok. So, all the other vendors that show their labs. If so, can you be 100% certain that it’s actually their lab? What if they moved? Did they update the pics?
Cleaning. This vendor is a little vague on cleaning procedures. Ok. So, all the other vendors that have satisfactory cleaning methods can you be absolutely certain they maintain those standards?
Trenbolonetax
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Hmm. Doesn’t this vendor have tests for all of their products? Wouldn’t that prove they have the capability to produce products that check the harm reduction box?
Also, they told us where they get their raws from which I’m sure BST and probably 75% of the other vendors on here get them from the same place and that is satisfactory.
Now let’s talk laboratories and cleaning
This vendor doesn’t feel comfortable providing those pics due to possible law enforcement issues. Ok. So, all the other vendors that show their labs. If so, can you be 100% certain that it’s actually their lab? What if they moved? Did they update the pics?
Cleaning. This vendor is a little vague on cleaning procedures. Ok. So, all the other vendors that have satisfactory cleaning methods can you be absolutely certain they maintain those standards?
Ben, you've been hit in the ahead again recently. My point for this vendor is the claim of raw testing and not backing it up.
Also their lab and process claims and shitty as fuck elaboration on their website with a lot of additional adjectives and very little substance.
Benf15harp
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Lol but they told you BST is where they get them.
TestyisBesty
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The list you copy and paste besides HPLC and especially since you’re the one asking. You don’t even use UGL, you’re just an attention whore.
You post 500 times if someone doesn’t run the test you want but when Neo does you post once “good, thanks for doing that”
As many have already stated, PED’s been around for decades and no endotoxins or sterility tests, and even if there is or was an incident. That’s one or two incidents out of 10,000,000 injections and prob user error.
All you care about is the “hey look at me Millard, look what I’m posting”
Let me ask you ? Did you put in an order from Neo now ? He ran your tests.
readalot
Member
You really believe that?
Thanks for bringing some common sense to the discussion—it’s always appreciated.Hmm. Doesn’t this vendor have tests for all of their products? Wouldn’t that prove they have the capability to produce products that check the harm reduction box?
Also, they told us where they get their raws from which I’m sure BST and probably 75% of the other vendors on here get them from the same place and that is satisfactory.
Now let’s talk laboratories and cleaning
This vendor doesn’t feel comfortable providing those pics due to possible law enforcement issues. Ok. So, all the other vendors that show their labs. If so, can you be 100% certain that it’s actually their lab? What if they moved? Did they update the pics?
Cleaning. This vendor is a little vague on cleaning procedures. Ok. So, all the other vendors that have satisfactory cleaning methods can you be absolutely certain they maintain those standards?
I’ve seen some questions about how we maintain sterility and what kind of setup we use, so I wanted to clear things up and share some additional photo
let’s be real: if someone wanted to make product in vials, all they’d need is a €100 manual crimper and a some space in kitchen. I think a lot of people here do this, that's why they ask questions that they face in their amateur work
We’ve gone way beyond that but it’s not a place for industry professionals to swap recipes or tips. If it were, I’d have my technical team jump in here to talk. Our team includes professionals with pharmaceutical backgrounds—they know what they’re doing when it comes to sterile production and can talk about steroids for hours. But that’s not what this space is for.
people seem to think we’ve invested in all this equipment, a full lab, and trained staff just to ruin it all by ignoring sterility. That makes no sense. Our customers are injecting these products—if there’s an issue, trust is lost immediately. That’s why we take sterility and safety very seriously.
now bout testings
We’re 100% on board with the idea that every batch of finished product needs to be tested—that’s exactly what we do. In fact, we’re sharing the test results for our finished products right here, and you can even verify them on the lab’s website that conducted the tests.
Now, about raw materials: When you buy a finished product, do you usually ask for certificates on every single ingredient? For example, in steroids, one of the components might be the carrier oil. It’s the same story here. There are only a couple of suppliers on the market that all major manufacturers use. We source from trusted suppliers, and we’ve even tagged one of them here for transparency.
These suppliers either conduct their own testing or offer discounts to customers who want to test the raw materials themselves. So, there are already tests either from the suppliers or from other buyers who’ve purchased the same batch.
However, since we didn’t personally conduct these raw material tests, we don’t feel it’s appropriate to share them publicly as if they’re coming directly from us. We also don’t see the need to consolidate all this information and post it here because, frankly, it’s not relevant to the discussion.
I’d also add that if any supplier ever has issues with purity, the market finds out pretty quickly. With so few suppliers in the game, it’s impossible for these problems to stay hidden. That’s why we keep a close eye on the situation and make sure we’re always sourcing top-quality materials.
To clear up any remaining doubts, we’ll upload a few more photos of our lab setup. Thanks again for the reasonable input!
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