Reduction of Benzyl Alcohol

[edjohn88]

I reached for the wrong bottle and put 10x the BA in my Primo E. I put it on a wax warmer to see if it will distill down or not. It seems to be working slowly. Anyone thing this will damage the Primo?

To clarify: i took 20g Primo and added 20mL BA (instead of 2mL). If the BA successfully evaporates down to approximately 18mL of volume I should end up with 20g Primo and 2mL BA no?

 

[bighunanballs]

Well you're certainly not distilling off ba under 400 degrees. I think it's evap rate is insanely low as well.

 

[bigtom343]

Your post is too incomplete to receive proper feedback. All you told us is 20g Primo and 20mL BA and everything else is unknown. First question would be what are the other variables ( Oil volume and any BB?)

 

[edjohn88]

Oh no I can't boil it if I want to preserve the primo, but suppose I let it evaporate for 2-3 days even... it should work technically?

 

[readalot]

I reached for the wrong bottle and put 10x the BA in my Primo E. I put it on a wax warmer to see if it will distill down or not. It seems to be working slowly. Anyone thing this will damage the Primo?

To clarify: i took 20g Primo and added 20mL BA (instead of 2mL). If the BA successfully evaporates down to approximately 18mL of volume I should end up with 20g Primo and 2mL BA no?

Yes. This reference may help you...

Post in thread 'Cant remember if i added BA'

Feb 5, 2024

https://www.osha.gov/chemicaldata/36

Benzyl alcohol

webbook.nist.gov

BA has a normal BP of 401 deg F and a vapor pressure of 0.1 mmHG at 68 F. 1 atm is 760 mmHg. The vast majority of BA isn't going anywhere at that temperature unless you are brewing in a vacuum for some reason.

TLDR: at the concentrations added BA is practically non-volatile over applicable brewing Temps.

• readalot

You'll have to beat on it if you want to speed up the evap rate and agitate as well. What temp are you running?

Also, please list out the desired recipe.

 

[edjohn88]

Your post is too incomplete to receive proper feedback. All you told us is 20g Primo and 20mL BA and everything else is unknown. First question would be what are the other variables ( Oil volume and any BB?)

I told you everything meaning I realized the mistake immediately so that's all that's in it right now.

 

[edjohn88]

Yes. This reference may help you...

Post in thread 'Cant remember if i added BA'

Feb 5, 2024

https://www.osha.gov/chemicaldata/36

Benzyl alcohol

webbook.nist.gov

BA has a normal BP of 401 deg F and a vapor pressure of 0.1 mmHG at 68 F. 1 atm is 760 mmHg. The vast majority of BA isn't going anywhere at that temperature unless you are brewing in a vacuum for some reason.

TLDR: at the concentrations added BA is practically non-volatile over applicable brewing Temps.

• readalot

You'll have to beat on it if you want to speed up the evap rate and agitate as well. What temp are you running?

Also, please list out the desired recipe.

The warmer puts it around 160F though it might be climbing slightly. I am using a 200mg/mL Primo E mix:

20g Primo E
2mL BA
20mL BB
62mL MCT

I successfully brewed the rest of my raws I just want to save this mix I fucked up

 

[bighunanballs]

I told you everything meaning I realized the mistake immediately so that's all that's in it right now.

Stop heating it and brew a larger less potent batch (at 100mg/ml) with it than you were originally calculating you can run ba to about 3% before you get pretty bad pip so reclalc your solvents and add more powder to get you where you need it

 

[edjohn88]

Good idea, but like I said, I brewed the rest of my powder. Not sure it's worth ordering 6 times as much primo just to dilute this amount.

The math is hurting me... but you did say 100mg so maybe that's 3x the raws? Still 60g is not cheap.

UPDATE it looks like my level has dropped from 36mL to 25mL so maybe it's working.

 

[bighunanballs]

 

[bighunanballs]

Good idea, but like I said, I brewed the rest of my powder. Not sure it's worth ordering 6 times as much primo just to dilute this amount.

The math is hurting me... but you did say 100mg so maybe that's 3x the raws? Still 60g is not cheap.

You're in a pickle sorry to say. You're not gonna be evaporating that ba off on a candle warmer I don't think. Weigh it now then weigh it again in a day or two on the warmer see if it loses any mass

 

[edjohn88]

That's legit. I should get that app.

 

[readalot]

Good idea, but like I said, I brewed the rest of my powder. Not sure it's worth ordering 6 times as much primo just to dilute this amount.

The math is hurting me... but you did say 100mg so maybe that's 3x the raws? Still 60g is not cheap.

UPDATE it looks like my level has dropped from 36mL to 25mL so maybe it's working.

Yeah, up to 250 F should give you a little boost on vapor pressure without cranking on the primo too bad. Nice work. Keep it stirring to maximize surface area per unit volume.

Benzyl alcohol

webbook.nist.gov

 

[bigtom343]

Good idea, but like I said, I brewed the rest of my powder. Not sure it's worth ordering 6 times as much primo just to dilute this amount.

The math is hurting me... but you did say 100mg so maybe that's 3x the raws? Still 60g is not cheap.

UPDATE it looks like my level has dropped from 36mL to 25mL so maybe it's working.

Can you just snort it?

 

[bighunanballs]

UPDATE it looks like my level has dropped from 36mL to 25mL so maybe it's working.

I didn't see this. 20gs of raw should be roughly 18ml volume plus 20ml ba you should have started at 38ml total volume. If you're at 25ml now you've evaporated off 13ml

 

[bighunanballs]

Chatgpt

The evaporation time for 1 ml of benzyl alcohol at 160°F (about 71°C) can vary based on factors like air circulation and the surface area exposed. Generally, it might take several minutes to an hour. To ensure complete evaporation, monitor the process closely and allow for adequate ventilation.