Reta & CJC No Dac?

[ToastEater]

I just finished Cagri, Ipamorelin, & HGH Frag. Great combo!

I have 10mg Reta & 10mg CJC-1295 No DAC on hand. Anyone use them together?

Thoughts?

 

[xrayphoton13]

These are odd combos. I don't understand the cagrilintide without the glp-1 like reta. I don't understand ipamoralin with CJC and vice versa. I don't understand HGH frag at all, with or without a secretagogue.

You take cagrilintide on top of reta(or tirz/sema) if you aren't getting enough food suppression from reta alone.

You take CJC(with or without the drug affinity complex) with ipamoralin as they do two different things and work synergistically together to give you a way bigger benefit than either could separately.

If hgh frag (I know nothing about it) is anything like HGH you'll want to keep it 24 hours apart from secretagogues like CJC or ipamoralin for Max benefit

 

[mntman15]

Just added CJC no dac on Monday. Expected but weird flushing right after. I'm doing 100mcg right before bed fasted so only 1x/day. Plan on 5/2 cycle for 12 weeks I guess. Got a kit so it'll last a bit. Just to see how it goes. Hoping for better sleep, anything else would be a bonus.

 

[mntman15]

Just added CJC no dac on Monday. Expected but weird flushing right after. I'm doing 100mcg right before bed fasted so only 1x/day. Plan on 5/2 cycle for 12 weeks I guess. Got a kit so it'll last a bit. Just to see how it goes. Hoping for better sleep, anything else would be a bonus.

Week 5 update. So first 3 weeks nothing happened except some water weight gain. Week 4 I noticed better recovery especially after leg day. It was really noticable. This week, week 5, I had rep increases in all sets. Also really good recovery again especially leg day. I have to account that to the peptide. It wasn't a random 1 extra rep here/there it was across the board. I've not had any sleep improvement.

I'm doing 200mcg/night on 5/2 cycle. (100mcg only first couple days). Still plan on going 12 weeks.

 

[Ugandafred]

Why not directly HGH with Reta ?
That’s work.
And i think HGH is cheaper then the Frag Peptides which are significantly less effective than HGH………

 

[Mr.AAJR]

CJC/Ipa is excellent. Tesa/Ipa is excellent. Both combos doubled my IGF-1 levels from 150 to 300. The water retention was pretty extreme for me. 10-15 extra lbs of water at all times. Going to run a few months of HGH and compare the numbers.

 

[mntman15]

CJC/Ipa is excellent. Tesa/Ipa is excellent. Both combos doubled my IGF-1 levels from 150 to 300. The water retention was pretty extreme for me. 10-15 extra lbs of water at all times. Going to run a few months of HGH and compare the numbers.

Curious have you tried the old dandelion root trick? I have never done it but have known/seen reports it works pretty good for water retention. Going to give it a shot. Found some powder extract pretty cheap/cheaper than capsules and going to put some in my daily protein shake.

 

[mntman15]

Why not directly HGH with Reta ?
That’s work.
And i think HGH is cheaper then the Frag Peptides which are significantly less effective than HGH………

I wanted to run with the more natural approach and force my body. Just to see how it responded. I am happy so far although I was hoping for some sleep improvements. Seems I'm doomed, maybe if I get black out drunk it'll help, I don't drink so won't take much. Price wasn't bad for the peptide. It was around $100 for 10 vials of 5mg. I have no idea what actual HGH cost I didn't really put any consideration into it since I already decided on my approach.

 

[lilhawk]

Why not directly HGH with Reta ?
That’s work.
And i think HGH is cheaper then the Frag Peptides which are significantly less effective than HGH………

This ^^

 

[mntman15]

This ^^

I hear you. Not against it either I know lots of people have good results on even 2iu. I've done a little research on it. I wanted to go this route though, personal choice.

 

[Waclive]

I hear you. Not against it either I know lots of people have good results on even 2iu. I've done a little research on it. I wanted to go this route though, personal choice.

If I'm not mistaken, Jay Campbell mentioned he uses 1iu for 5 days on and 2 days off.

Have you gotten any blood work or tests done while running this protocol? I'm also curious about your age as secretagogues only work for so long and then you need real HGH since you're effectively not producing your own. The age varies from person to person. I've read anywhere from early 30s to mid 40s.

 

[mntman15]

If I'm not mistaken, Jay Campbell mentioned he uses 1iu for 5 days on and 2 days off.

Have you gotten any blood work or tests done while running this protocol? I'm also curious about your age as secretagogues only work for so long and then you need real HGH since you're effectively not producing your own. The age varies from person to person. I've read anywhere from early 30s to mid 40s.

Yep I'm doing the 5/2 protocol. It's recommended for several of the peptides not just this one. It's well documented actually. It works out pretty good, just take on days I lift. I plan on 12 weeks then take a break.

I'm 47 and I have not gotten tested while on the protocol. In 2024 I got an IGF test which was in range. I don't remember the actual result. Back then was when I first started digging into my blood work. I started TRT in 2025 as a result of really low test, it was under 200. I have not done any AAS yet. I found this forum while researching/considering doing something. I may try a test only run, I have not decided yet. Although I get tested frequently by my clinic, plus my PCP, and I do on my own I'd have a more serious approach to lab work. I learned of some cool options on here about companies that offer testing that are fairly reasonable.

 

[Waclive]

Yep I'm doing the 5/2 protocol. It's recommended for several of the peptides not just this one. It's well documented actually. It works out pretty good, just take on days I lift. I plan on 12 weeks then take a break.

I'm 47 and I have not gotten tested while on the protocol. In 2024 I got an IGF test which was in range. I don't remember the actual result. Back then was when I first started digging into my blood work. I started TRT in 2025 as a result of really low test, it was under 200. I have not done any AAS yet. I found this forum while researching/considering doing something. I may try a test only run, I have not decided yet. Although I get tested frequently by my clinic, plus my PCP, and I do on my own I'd have a more serious approach to lab work. I learned of some cool options on here about companies that offer testing that are fairly reasonable.

Given your age, I would be very interested in your IGF levels on the secretagogues, however, I'm thinking it's definitely more beneficial for to move to HGH at this point. No harm in trying the secretagogues if you have them.

I'm running them myself, along with some others. But I haven't gotten any tests yet as I am looking for a place for testing that is reliable, accurate, and private.