Reta fasted bloodglucose start creeping up

Lifting88

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Since i start reta my morning bloodsugar seems to get higher instead of lower

This morning my fasted bloodsugar is 8.7 mnol

How is this possible its diabetes high

Im on (per week)
3/4 reta
8 iu hgh down to 5.5iu daily
500mcg kpv dialy (first time )
300 test c
100 tren a
100mg t4
40 telmasartan
12.5 hct
 
It's been told many times here that when you take HGH especially at night it alters the FBG and gives a false positive. If you skip 1-2 days the reading becomes more accurate without directly meaning that HGH was skewing the FBG but only the reading. I hope you understood it with my poor explanation.

Also, FBG is just one reading in 24h. What your numbers are right before a meal and after 1-1,5 hour i think it's more important overall.
Nothing false about rHGH fbg. GH increases insulin resistance and new onset diabetes is a fairly common side effect for those on rHGH replacement therapy, so doctors monitor it carefully.
 
Yes. Gastric transit time Initially can be 50% slower than normal.

Once you reach a stable dose, "maintenance", often around 12-16 weeks, it's closer to 25% slower.

Long term, 20 weeks+, your system has fully acclimated, and it's only about 10% slower and not noticeable at all.

This is super interesting and something I've observed from using Tirz. Where did you get these numbers from?
 
This is super interesting and something I've observed from using Tirz. Where did you get these numbers from?

I extrapolated it from Tirz data I've read in various sources, and of course what I've observed over the years in myself and others. I don't recall which, but here you can see it starts on the 50's, and by day 37 is in the 30s. The FDA mentions that effect diminishes with repeated dosing.

Unfortunately in the UGL/Peptide community very few follow the pharma protocol or stay on one compound long enough to reach a stable, side effect free maintainance dose. I don't think most even realize that's what they should be aiming for and think it works like a diet pill, that is, taken temporarily, then dropped, returned to, etc instead of what GLPs really are: Incretin hormone replacement that's as long term as TRT or Insulin.


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I extrapolated it from Tirz data I've read in various sources, and of course what I've observed over the years in myself and others. I don't recall which, but here you can see it starts on the 50's, and by day 37 is in the 30s. The FDA mentions that effect diminishes with repeated dosing.

Unfortunately in the UGL/Peptide community very few follow the pharma protocol or stay on one compound long enough to reach a stable, side effect free maintainance dose. I don't think most even realize that's what they should be aiming for and think it works like a diet pill, that is, taken temporarily, then dropped, returned to, etc instead of what GLPs really are: Incretin hormone replacement that's as long term as TRT or Insulin.


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Thank you.


From reading your posts it seems like you've been on Reta and Zepbound.

What do you prefer?
 
Thank you.


From reading your posts it seems like you've been on Reta and Zepbound.

What do you prefer?

Only Sema and Tirz.

If I had a lot of weight to lose, I'd choose to start with Sema. It's carrot and stick. It kills "food noise", but one issue causing the majority of people to become overweight is no longer listening to hunger and satiation signals. In other words, in an environment saturated with food, getting truly "hungry" is rare. People eat on a schedule. habit, or for emotional comfort.

So even when "food noise" is silenced, many people will eat nonetheless.

When you do that with Sema, and "eat beyond your (now reduced) appetite", you will be punished, severely. Nausea, even vomiting, gastric reflux. Really terrible.

If you have half a brain, you eventually figure out the only "safe" way to eat on Sema is when you genuinely feel hunger. And even then, you need to eat slowly, small portions, and STOP the moment you feel full. No "clearing the plate" or even a single bite after you feel satisfied, or Sema, that bitch, will have you hugging the toilet again.

Sema is very much a carrot (reduced food noise) and stick (fail to observe hunger and satiety signals and you'll be physically punished) system of reprogramming. Some people never learn, and often drop out, always getting sick and never realizing why. If you obey the stop and go appetite signals you can avoid 99% of Sema sides.

Tirz lessens the "punishment" aspect. GIP is an anti-nauseant, while GLP still reduces food noise. This is a much more pleasant experience. but IMO not as brutally effective as Sema.

Reta reduces the "punishment" aspect even more, which I think will make it even less effective for the large subset of people who "need to learn the hard way", but works well for those accustomed to diet discipline, can appreciate the relief of food noise pressure, and take advantage of that to exert even more control over their diet.

So, in my opinion. Reta is best reserved for those who've already managed to condition themselves to control their diets via discipline, and can use the assistance of muted food noise so they don't have to consume energy and attention on that fight.

For those who've tried (repeatedly usually) and lost that battle, often losing weight via diet only to regain it, Tirz will work if you work with it, making it easier to lose and keep off weight. and not be too unpleasant.

For those in a rush for quickest results, on a tight budget, or the fatsos who never even tried to fight the battle against obesity, Sema is BMI boot camp with a drill sergeant wielding the spiked club needed to destroy the inner fattie, and rebuild the ability to listen to appetite signals and. better eating habits from the ground up. Once most of the weight needed to be lost is gone, graduating to Tirz for long term maintenance and potentially a few more pounds of loss is a reasonable option.
 
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