roiders are oppressed

[RzSco]

You don’t “need” steroids.

And if every guy is on steroids the whole point of steroids, to become bigger than other guys, is moot.

Keep them illegal and gatekept.

 

[djedo]

You don’t “need” steroids.

And if every guy is on steroids the whole point of steroids, to become bigger than other guys, is moot.

Keep them illegal and gatekept.

What do you mean "you dont need steroids"?That is heresy,please stop spreading liberal propaganda on this forum.

 

[explodingHeart]

If legal, 19/20 men would fuck themselves up with, look worse, destroy their organs with high BP.

maybe 1/20 would look good and have no side effects for a while.

 

[BabaJagga]

If legal, 19/20 men would fuck themselves up with, look worse, destroy their organs with high BP.

maybe 1/20 would look good and have no side effects for a while.

...same as now. its very easy to buy

 

[explodingHeart]

...same as now. its very easy to buy

Pretty much. We focus on the 1/100 guys who look good but ignore everyone who went bald, high BP, looked 15 years old, never got shredded, basically looked like a bloated fat mess (most guys who use).

It's like gambling but with much worse odds.

 

[IndividualMan]

To be fair, the girls on BC are blasting synthetic hormones that are really fucking harmful, and THOSE are what’s given out like candy. It’s so much harder to get our hands on the bioidentical shit that’s actually really helpful at certain stages in life. They want to suppress our fertility when we’re young, and then when we’re naturally less fertile, the medical establishment is like “yeah, ha, we don’t care. Sorry bout all those awful symptoms. Suck it up.” It’s a crapshoot for everyone, really. And it really sucks for the young girls on BC who are very uninformed about the long term ramifications of that shit.

True. Med establishment actually just hates women. There have to be better ways to do hormonal BC instead of "hey, we keep pushing this non-Biodidentical drug with pretty nasty side effects because it kind of works and pregnancy is worse"

Returning to the theme of this thread, why do women get Oral pills that cause health issues so they don't have to be pregnant, but roiders aren't allowed to get (non-bioidentical) pills so they don't have to be small?
I want old people to do their 2 DBol, a coffe and a cigarette breakfast again, man.

 

[BabaJagga]

Pretty much. We focus on the 1/100 guys who look good but ignore everyone who went bald, high BP, looked 15 years old, never got shredded, basically looked like a bloated fat mess (most guys who use).

It's like gambling but with much worse odds.

and i still think its not issue. everyone should be free to do whatever they desire.

 

[wells14]

Heard several stories of guys being denied NHS treatment because they're on gear, basically just told to go away and stop using. Yet they'll give lung transplants to smokers and gastric bypass surgery to people who ate themselves to 300kg free of charge. But god forbid you need a gyno surgery or some raloxifene. You're paying for that out of pocket.

 

[Banana Joe]

Leaving aside that this topic was apparently not created with a serious intent:

You don’t “need” steroids.

Keep them illegal and gatekept.

I *need* them to function like a normal human being. But I would likely have never gotten them. And even if I would have - fuck everyone that thinks I should fight for a prescription tooth and nail for 1+ years.
Do I take more than I need? Yes, but that is nobody's fucking business.

Fun fact, I even have a medical doctor (no endo, so can't prescribe it to me), that flat out asked me, why I don't just take more - if I feel better at a higher dose - I was already at 200mg at that time.

Another friend of mine is an ex-heavyweight competitor, was off for 15 years, and then wanted TRT, and then got Test cream from his endo...
He then went to pharmacy with the prescription and bought 250mg ampoules instead - because he is actually a medical doctor himself and has the ID to buy anything in a pharmacy.

If legal, 19/20 men would fuck themselves up with, look worse, destroy their organs with high BP.

maybe 1/20 would look good and have no side effects for a while.

Same as with every drug, if people were educated, there would be significantly less casualties.
Even less if you were to actually work on eliminating the reasons why most people take too much drugs for their own good, which I guess usually is some kind of unresolved psychological trauma.
But of course that would also transform the entire society to not be brain dead retards, that are kinda fine with how things are, and where they are going.

But god forbid you need a gyno surgery or some raloxifene. You're paying for that out of pocket.

Here AFAIK only a (very?) small minority of gyno surgeries from pubertal(!) gyno gets covered by health insurance. Apparently it does not matter how *utterly* devastating that often is, for an adolescent or a young man, to be unable to afford this surgery.

Where I live juice is legal here and homosexuality is not. You are not oppressed, youre just complaining. Why do grown men want to whine so much?

Where I live I can get buttsexed by as many men as I want to, but god forbid I stick a juicy needle into my butt instead.

A friend of mine will probably soon go to prison, for having been repeatedly caught with gear for his own use*. You can argue it was his own stupidity for getting caught, but I still fail to see what menace to society he is, nor why I, as a taxpayer, should pay for this stay in prison, when he could keep paying his own taxes by not being in prison (duh!).
For reasons I don't wanna go into, this circumstance then further wrecked his life beyond that.

I had a police officer illegally enter my home once, without *any* reason. Thankfully nothing happened, because I kept cool and handled the situation calmly. I would have smashed this POS's skull in, if he wasn't a police officer, and would have probably gotten away with it, because I have a right to defend myself in the case of a home invasion.

So if you want to call my friend and me whiners, because we don't like the government putting us in prison for just taking gear - feel free to call us whiners.


* he uses a lot

 

[Banana Joe]

it's cheaper than running for Congress.

This is the same case as:

"If voting changed anything, it would be illegal."

 

[wells14]

Here AFAIK only a (very?) small majority of gyno surgeries from pubertal(!) gyno gets covered by health insurance. Apparently it does not matter how *utterly* devastating that often is, for an adolescent or a young man, to be unable to afford this surgery.

Yea its bad everywhere it seems. In the UK its even the same for women. I know one woman who has debilitating back pain from being extremely large chested and she can not get a reduction surgery.

 

[RzSco]

Yea its bad everywhere it seems. In the UK its even the same for women. I know one woman who has debilitating back pain from being extremely large chested and she can not get a reduction surgery.

Well, the UK essentially does not have a healthcare system, the NHS will reject you for anything trivial/discretionary and you’ll die before they see you if it’s serious.

 

[Slowww]

Where I live I can get buttsexed by as many men as I want to, but god forbid I stick a juicy needle into my butt instead.

A friend of mine will probably soon go to prison, for having been repeatedly caught with gear for his own use*. You can argue it was his own stupidity for getting caught, but I still fail to see what menace to society he is, nor why I, as a taxpayer, should pay for this stay in prison, when he could keep paying his own taxes by not being in prison (duh!).
For reasons I don't wanna go into, this circumstance then further wrecked his life beyond that.

I had a police officer illegally enter my home once, without *any* reason. Thankfully nothing happened, because I kept cool and handled the situation calmly. I would have smashed this POS's skull in, if he wasn't a police officer, and would have probably gotten away with it, because I have a right to defend myself in the case of a home invasion.

So if you want to call my friend and me whiners, because we don't like the government putting us in prison for just taking gear - feel free to call us whiners.


* he uses a lot

This is not an ascribed trait. People make a choice to use steroids outside of a legal medical conventions. You can legally use steroids In the United States, and almost universally use them without being caught if you aren’t a retard. You can even get trt and so on at a clinic beyond what is medically necessary etc. You can go so far as internationally bringing gear into the states if it’s not an absurd amount.

oppressed groups cannot opt in or out of the trait they are oppressed for. Being a gym juicer is something you can quit. Even if I agree that it’s stupid that it’s illegal in any capacity for adults, it doesnt make you oppressed for something you choose to do. Cigarette smokers aren’t oppressed because they can’t smoke in elementary schools.

If we burden tax payers with some level of maintaining the medical system, steroid abuse also burdens the medical system and tax payer so some rights to rampant abuse are curtailed. Again I don’t agree with it but it something that can definitely be argued as to why we need limitations. Same as why we can get opioids from a doctor, for legitimate reasons, but can’t stockpile them in our home for recreation. Fent users are oppressed too by this logic.

Also Im sorry for your friend and I hope that he can get punishment mitigated as much as possible. That is awful

 

[ChemBB]

I've always phrased this double-standard as:

> "It's okay for a woman to take testosterone if she feels her body doesn't match her identity -- but for a man to take testosterone if he feels like his body doesn't match his identity, is wrong/immoral?"