Ruckin's dbol/test/eq log

[Perrin Aybara]

Looks like it's everywhere since we all live so far apart. I lucked out, but I seem to get mine in the springtime more than the winter.

Last year I got a bad stomach bug after eating chicken casserole. I couldn't eat chicken for a month or so after, I doubt I'll ever eat a casserole like that again.

 

[cdoubleu]

Looking good so far man. Are you noticing a pretty big difference from your first cycle with the eq added to this one? Should be kicked in by now.

 

[ruckin]

Looking good so far man. Are you noticing a pretty big difference from your first cycle with the eq added to this one? Should be kicked in by now.

I'm almost 10 weeks in now so the eq should be kicked in by now, but I haven't noticed any increase in vascularity or appetite yet, which seems kinda odd. I'm very happy with the gains I've been making though. The only difference I'd say from my first cycle is that I haven't "blown up" like I did last time, which is because of my lower dose of test.

I'm looking forward to see what the next 10 weeks bring though.

 

[cdoubleu]

I'm almost 10 weeks in now so the eq should be kicked in by now, but I haven't noticed any increase in vascularity or appetite yet, which seems kinda odd. I'm very happy with the gains I've been making though. The only difference I'd say from my first cycle is that I haven't "blown up" like I did last time, which is because of my lower dose of test.

I'm looking forward to see what the next 10 weeks bring though.

What kind of mass gains have you made? Sorry if ive missed it

 

[ruckin]

What kind of mass gains have you made? Sorry if ive missed it

I'm up about 10 lbs right now so nothing crazy, but but my strength has been increasing almost every time I've been in the gym so that's really what I've been looking at to gauge progress.

 

[ruckin]

So I just went to donate blood, and somehow I "clogged" the machine. I asked if my blood was too thick or something (I'm a little worried at this point cause of the eq) and she said no, it might have been my skin, I guess since the needle they use is thick as fuck.

Speaking of blood, I need to go have bloodwork done soon.

 

[ruckin]

I started wondering a couple weeks ago how much I'd be able to push press. That push press thread in the training section just reminded me.

I wonder if it would be a bad idea to sub it in for strict press for a little while. The only reason I'm hesitant to try it is because I know it would work my triceps a lot harder, and my performance on my bench and incline bench would likely suffer, as I always do them after I press. Also idk if it's a good or bad idea with the tricep issues I was having recently.

I'm leaning towards not changing anything right now, but who knows if I'll change my mind soon.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

lol, I just did push press tonight instead of strict press because of that thread.

 

[ruckin]

How'd it go for you? Were they fun? Now that I think about it, I don't think I've ever done push presses.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

Yeah, they actually felt pretty good, I just used 185 and hit 10 on my AMRAP. Pretty much what you're strict pressing, but I'm expecting quick progress for awhile. Until I start Sheiko in a few weeks anyway.

How'd the blood donation do you?

 

[ruckin]

So I'm in the gym as I type this, and I decided to shut this workout down til tomorrow. The spot on my fingertip where they prick it before blood donations to check that drop of blood for iron levels started bleeding a little as I was warming up for power cleans, and I didn't wanna be an asshole and bleed on everything. On top of that, the spot on my arm there they put the needle in started feeling kinda sore once I started lifting. I started getting a bad feeling in my gut about lifting tonight so I'm playing it safe and just called it quits. I don't want anything crazy or weird to happen in the middle of my workout. I'll just do it tomorrow afternoon, no harm done. Now I'm just riding a stationary bike for 20 min and them I'll head home. Sucks but oh well.

Yeah, they actually felt pretty good, I just used 185 and hit 10 on my AMRAP. Pretty much what you're strict pressing, but I'm expecting quick progress for awhile. Until I start Sheiko in a few weeks anyway.

How'd the blood donation do you?

Nice I'm glad to hear you liked them. I think I'll switch to push after I get to the 200x8x3 "milestone" on my strict. Hopefully that won't take more than a couple more weeks.

Meh, as I just said above it kinda fucked my workout. It's not recommended to lift after donating anyway so it's not the end of the world, even though I've done it before without a problem.

 

[ruckin]

I just finished doing my power cleans and HOLY MOLY THEY SUCKED! I'm pretty frustrated with them. They're the only thing that isn't progressing well. I probably just don't do them enough. Maybe I should come in on off days sometimes and do just 5 or so at a medium intensity just to practice more. I don't want to interfere with my recovery for everything else though, and I'm not sure if they would...

Edit: great, now my press is feeling shitty too. Fuck it, I think I'm just gonna go light the rest of the workout and call it a recovery workout. Hopefully I can set myself up for a good lift on sunday. This whole week just wasn't my week man... Oh well shit happens.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

You go three days a week, right? You should be good to experiment with a fourth, just start light for a few weeks at first. That's how it's recommended in Squat Every Day and it seems like there's a chapter in Practical Programming on Olympic lifts that has something similar. Seems like power cleans wouldn't fatigue you much. Olympic lifters do them daily or multiple times a day after all.

 

[Mr.B66]

I just finished doing my power cleans and HOLY MOLY THEY SUCKED! I'm pretty frustrated with them. They're the only thing that isn't progressing well. I probably just don't do them enough. Maybe I should come in on off days sometimes and do just 5 or so at a medium intensity just to practice more. I don't want to interfere with my recovery for everything else though, and I'm not sure if they would...

Edit: great, now my press is feeling shitty too. Fuck it, I think I'm just gonna go light the rest of the workout and call it a recovery workout. Hopefully I can set myself up for a good lift on sunday. This whole week just wasn't my week man... Oh well shit happens.

Bad weeks happen ruck, just comes with the territory really. But NEXT week could best week you ever had.

 

[ruckin]

You go three days a week, right? You should be good to experiment with a fourth, just start light for a few weeks at first. That's how it's recommended in Squat Every Day and it seems like there's a chapter in Practical Programming on Olympic lifts that has something similar. Seems like power cleans wouldn't fatigue you much. Olympic lifters do them daily or multiple times a day after all.

Yeah 3x per week right now. That sounds like a good idea. I'll try to start going just to do power cleans the day after my heavy deadlift day each week, since I always rest for 2 days after that workout anyway, so I'll still have a full day of complete rest before the volume deadlift workout.

Bad weeks happen ruck, just comes with the territory really. But NEXT week could best week you ever had.

I sure hope so! I was thinking that while I was still in the gym, just reminding myself that every workout isn't gonna be great. I was bound to have a couple bad days eventually I guess. Marathon not a sprint.

Thanks for the kind words!

 

[ruckin]

Here's a screenshot of my plan for sunday and now the newly added monday workout. I'm sure I'll change my mind a few more times about exactly how much weight and how many reps I wanna do for cleans on monday, but that's the plan for now. Also now you guys can see where I copy all my workouts from that I just paste into my log here. Thank God for phone notes.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

Looks good to me. Tough, but I like tough. Days you don't feel like doing the optional assistance you could throw it in on the fourth day, too. As long as it wasn't hurting your workout two days later anyway.

 

[ruckin]

Fuck it I'm switching to push press. Not sure yet if I want to stick with 3x8 or switch to 5x5 but either way, bigger weights will be pushed above my head.

 

[ruckin]

2/7:

power clean: -
Press: 190x8x3
Squat: 375x6x4
Incline press: 220x10x3
Deadlift: 490x5
Chins: 260x5,5,5,5,7
Db Shrugs: 85sx17x3 (~1 min rest)
Incline curls: 45sx7,2 (rp)
Face pulls: 160x13,3,1 (rp)

My gym was packed when I went yesterday and I wasn't able to get access to the porpper stuff to do cleans, and I didn't have time to wait around an extra half hour for it, so I had to skip them for the sake of the rest of my workout. Deadlift went well though, I'm excited to go for 495x5 next week.


2/8 (today):

Power clean: 215x1x10

I can definitely feel the fatigue from yesterday. Glad I was able to get in and practice my cleans though. Thanks again to @Perrin Aybara for the suggestion.

I've been stepping my food game up the last few days, so I'm expecting to see my weight start moving up more. Looking forward to the positive effects that will have on my strength as well. I'm chomping at the bit to get to that 405 bench. I think switching to push press will help a lot with my bench as well so I'm excited.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

You're killing it, ruck. 495x5 should be no problem. What are you looking for on reps before you attempt the 405 on bench?

As far as the fatigue on that fourth day I believe it's something you could adapt to. When I ran RTS it had heavy deadlift days the day after heavy squat days sometimes and I swore that would have been impossible, but I hit some rep PRs like that. Same with benching or squatting two days in a row. Conventional gym wisdom says impossible, but it's really not if you go about it the right way.