Safe(r) way to make suspensions (for IM/subq)

Adzio123

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I just figured safer way to make water based suspensions, share your thoughts on it. It's more expesive and it should be, its for harm reduction, let's be honest, suspensions are very risky for homebrew.

1. Transfer amount of powder you want to be suspended in 3 vials into presterilized media bottle. This recipe is for 30ml vials - 2 of them can be 50ml
2. fill it with ethanol, i do 1,5g of powder per 10cc of ethanol
3. Heat & stirr up to 95C on a pad in CLOSED bottle i would sugest 50ml for 30cc of liquid
4. Let it stirr for some time after dissolved, also keep heat on.
5. Filter trough 2 x 0,22 filters (just put filter on filter) or even better 0,22 and 0,1 filter
6. You can add (also filter) 2cc BA (if you dont feel safe with 0,9% BA in your bac water) per 10cc of liquid into vial.
7. Keep vial warmed, Filter STERILE water for injection or bac water into ANOTHER vial to prevent contamination during transfer. 20CC for ethanol only and 18CC for ethanol + ba
8. DON'T add polysorbate now it will destroy everything!- I skip it at all. susp flows just fine without it
9. Heat water. Draw your (warmed!)... in fact double filtered disinfectant because some ethanol will evaporate leaving 80-90% ethanol. insert slin needle to syringe
10. pin it slowly while vortexing (yes you need vortex) idk how it will do with just shaking.
11. Done you have milky suspension with... about 30% ethanol... that's good. Wait till it cools and separate, also vortex it after procedure.
12. Draw water out for diluting it. Insert filter (0,22) and use it to add bac water (or sterile but it need some ba)
13. Repeat till its less than 10% ethanol. The cooler the faster it will separate.

14. Optional. Filter some polysorbate for last filtration. I would use 3rd vial and boil it with water and BA afterwards just to make sure its fine.
15. you have 2/3 of your ethanol solution in vial. Grab 2 vials and repeat extra vial for solution and poly is for saving filters (and safety) ;)
16. You want 75mg/ml (or more if you can force it to separate)? just draw some water before you add poly.

Share your thoughts. This recipe is for... tbh anything that can dissolve in Ethanol. T, tren, DHT - all of them i made same way.

Powder don't need to be premicronized, it will micronize by mixing warm water and solution on vortex. Also remeber to do it slowly, slower is better just dont let it crash - add it with constant speed.
 
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this is a hot mess. you also mention putting in 2cc of ba per 10cc of liquid on top of the .9 already in the bac water.
 
@Jstone Not every country has bac water available. For sterile water you need BA. Also as i said its a choice to skip it if you feel ok with 0.9 BA. Ethanol is cosolvent that will make water hold more BA (its non polar - water and BA separate)
 
@Jstone Not every country has bac water available. For sterile water you need BA. Also as i said its a choice to skip it if you feel ok with 0.9 BA. Ethanol is cosolvent that will make water hold more BA (its non polar - water and BA separate)
you have no idea what your talking about. 2cc of BA for 10cc is 20% BA. BA also does not seperate from water. if it did Bac water would have to be shaken everytime you use it.
 
@Jstone I maybe not made it clear but it is already long and complicated. You should use ethanol to fill 30ml vial with water inside. I have new pharm grade BA and it separate from water, at o.9 its hard to see if it is flowing in water tbh. Extra vial is to prevent contamination, making vortex easier and to save filters. Its rather description of a method than recipe if you want to use less ethanol you can do guiaiacol, some people use it for water based, im not one od them. So read it again before making such statements.
 
Safer and easier:
Mix whatever powder with pure DMSO, apply to the skin, done.
 
I've made a couple liters of water susp over the years using the normal recipe and never had any issues. If made properly water susp is good for a few years. Absolutely no need to fuck with what already works! And dmso is garbage!
 
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