Safe shipping quantity ?

[No Known Address]

When I was using a foreign source I was always afraid to order the amount I really wanted in case it didn't make it through customs it wouldn't look like I was distributing it ; I always kept my orders to three vials or $300.00 ; figuring that was too small an order to go to any trouble to do anything other then send a letter and confiscate it.

Now that I been dealing with domestic sources I've increased my orders a little, but still been too nervous to order what I'd like to order ; 4-5 vials of two different items. I always think with a domestic shipment once it gets in the mail you're chances of getting it are 99% but I'm still thinking that an order of 8 -10 vials looking like I was selling it when it's just to stock up while having the chance.

What do you guys consider an amount - number of vials or dollar amount - that if pinched the law would say the was for re-sale instead of for personal use ?

Appreciate some thoughts on this ......

 

[Donzi]

If they want it they will take it no matter the size. While I understand the stay small method I have had 1 thing taken b4.. Ur avg Customs rep wont turn u in they steal it 4 them self.

 

[mcleod2305]

Never ordered online but seen a few posts that say only buy what you can afford to lose

 

[No Known Address]

only buy what you can afford to lose

That I understand but not what I'm asking. I know they'll keep everything whether it was two vials or ten .... I am wondering if there is an amount they consider is personal use and how much would have them thinking your selling ?

You're busted either way but it's much worse if they think your selling.

 

[tanuki]

Many variables involved. If it's a few vials customs will pass it on to local LE if they're not feeling lazy that day. Depending on where you live at that point. If you live in the boonies the pig sheriff will probably want to bust you as the multistate kingpin for 100 amps of test.

 

[thrombus]

Since this is essentially a legal question, I would be interested to hear from someone knowledgeable of related court cases. My guess, though, is that a single cycle's worth would be the limit on making a reasonable courtroom argument that the quantity was for personal use only which, of course, varies for the individual.

 

[tanuki]

What do you want? For us to say you won't get busted for 12 weeks worth of test and 200 dbol pills? There's never a guarantee especially with the ignorance surrounding juice.

 

[thrombus]

Now that I read it again, I suppose my post above was written from the point of view of not getting a prison term rather than the likelihood of package seizure. My guess is that the latter is mostly a roll of the dice that may be somewhat influenced by package size.

 

[tanuki]

Too many variables involved in determining what minimum amount gets you prison time. An overzealous DA might use the amount I mentioned above to say your the kingpin of drug empire and that is 10000000000000000 units. They need to bullshit to get stupids to vote for them.

Read some of the articles here and sorebuttcheeks to get an idea. I remember reading about getting 100 amps of Sus and a controlled delivery in some small town with an overly eager Sheriff's department.

Dealing with the hassle, even without conviction is a headache. Legal fees out the wazoo. Roll of the dice. Personal amounts in large cities is probably meh to cops.

 

[jeremywallace]

be careful with usa domestic! DEA keep bust usa domestic sources all the time and take customers info from busted source.

 

[regular]

be careful with usa domestic! DEA keep bust usa domestic sources all the time and take customers info from busted source.

Shill, why do you feel customs is less hot than domestic mail?

world-pharma is 100% legit but not cheap and for everyone!

fuck the price if quality is good!

big true! you are smart guy.
guys if you have money to test word-ph try it and you will not be disappointed!

 

[Pericles]

It has been my experience, time and again, that you probably will not have serious problems the first time a package is seized/and or the first time you get caught. And this applies to fairly large amounts (like 5 vials each drug). Cops usually make it clear that as long as you stop, you will be OK

However, the second time, now you have some pissed off LE and they are going to go after you 100%.

Also, these are in urban areas....in the boonies, cops will probably go after you on the first time.

 

[biggerben69]

It has been my experience, time and again, that you probably will not have serious problems the first time a package is seized/and or the first time you get caught. And this applies to fairly large amounts (like 5 vials each drug). Cops usually make it clear that as long as you stop, you will be OK

However, the second time, now you have some pissed off LE and they are going to go after you 100%.

Also, these are in urban areas....in the boonies, cops will probably go after you on the first time.

Merry X-Mas Peri. With all due respect, my friend, I don't think your post is accurate at all.

 

[Mike Oxbig]

I wouldn't order more than 3 vials at a time, but that's just me and I'm far more paranoid than most. I won't even consider picking up the package from the PO box until it's been sitting there for close to a week.

I'm amazed at the amount of people that have no problem doing something as risky as signing for a package. ESPECIALLY if you have a career on the line.

 

[Dr JIM]

Just because you sign for a package does NOT mean you acknowledge it's contents, it called plausible deniability, AKA innocent until proven guilty.

That being said the acquisition of AAS in quantities that a "reasonably informed person" believes exceeds a quantity consistent with "personal use", should obviously be avoided because said quantity may be misconstrued as representative of an AAS "sales agent,"

Considering the minuscule number of arrests or prosecution of INDIVIDUALS whom have shipped AAS, ostensibly that value is quite relative and dependent upon the jurisdiction of origin AND/OR destination.

Consequently, a 100ml multidose T-C vial (if one existed) would be preferable compared to ten, TEN ML or one hundred, one ml vials since it's implicit the former is often designed for a single user, because of the potential for cross contamination.

However, both pale in comparison to ONE-HUNDRED one ml vials which "could be resold" to a HUNDRED "misguided and misinformed teenagers" in "our schools" whom were taken advantage of, by "this drug pusher" all at a "considerable profit" and is "reflective of the thoughtless" effect these addictive substances have on our "children"!

IMO ten ml vials should be limited to no more than FIVE of the SAME PRODUCT, and to no more than twenty vials combined. I would suggest avoiding ONE ML vials altogether.

 

[biggerben69]

Just because you sign for a package does NOT mean you acknowledge it's contents, it called plausible deniability, AKA innocent until proven guilty.

That being said the acquisition of AAS in quantities that a "reasonably informed person" believes exceeds a quantity consistent with "personal use", should obviously be avoided because said quantity may be misconstrued as representative of an AAS "sales agent,"

Considering the minuscule number of arrests or prosecution of INDIVIDUALS whom have shipped AAS, ostensibly that value is quite relative and dependent upon the jurisdiction of origin AND/OR destination.

Consequently, a 100ml multidose T-C vial (if one existed) would be preferable compared to ten, TEN ML or one hundred, one ml vials since it's implicit the former is often designed for a single user, because of the potential for cross contamination.

However, both pale in comparison to ONE-HUNDRED one ml vials which "could be resold" to a HUNDRED "misguided and misinformed teenagers" in "our schools" whom were taken advantage of, by "this drug pusher" all at a "considerable profit" and is "reflective of the thoughtless" effect these addictive substances have on our "children"!

IMO ten ml vials should be limited to no more than FIVE of the SAME PRODUCT, and to no more than twenty vials combined. I would suggest avoiding ONE ML vials altogether.

And let's not forget....if the feds want you, they're gonna get you. It's that simple. Sign, don't sign....you're done.

 

[Dr JIM]

Got that right, BB!

 

[Dr JIM]

Hey, Merry Christmas to you and your's mate!

Best Regards
Jim

 

[biggerben69]

Hey, Merry Christmas to you and your's mate!

Best Regards
Jim

Right back at ya, Doc. It's always a pleasure.

 

[Mike Oxbig]

Just because you sign for a package does NOT mean you acknowledge it's contents, it called plausible deniability, AKA innocent until proven guilty.

Yes our court system (supposedly) operated under the clause of reasonable doubt and any logical person would agree that signing for a random package in no way implicates guilt, but concluding that it is irrelevant simplifies the logistics way too much.

For whatever reason it seems to be the Judges almost always want a signature before granting a search warrant, and that search warrant will almost always yeild other AAS, computer coorospondants, and payment tracking info.

The couple criminal attorneys I've talking to that have defended clients charged in cases involving mail contraband made a pretty big deal about never signing for the package. If you read posts about controlled deliveries it almost ALWAYS starts with being asked to sign. That alone is suffecient reasoning for me to avoid ever doing so.