I think he realized there was not a valid explanation. Lol...
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nightprowler7
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Because it’s not true lol. Just because a compound is high milligram doesn’t mean it causes pip.
See above. You started brewing less than 30 calendar days ago, no offense…but you are far from an expert. Yet you seem to think you are one.
narta
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I tried to engage with you in a polite way and I was curious if you had an explanation, tho you didn't explain shit and you are now trying to move the conversation on me and my zero experience.
First of all, experience and knowledge are two different things most of the time they go together sometime they can be on different levels.
I have never said anywhere I'm an expert. Tho I hardly talk without first having studied extensively on the subject or having first hand experience or both, brewing is not complicated either and I'm dabbling only in long ester (a lot easier compared to short ester)
I'm always open to admit I made a mistake or said something stupid if a person explain to me why and there is reasons in his explanation.
Where is your explanation?
Brew test E 500mg and let me know how is the PIP.
Brew primo at 400mg and let me know how it is the PIP.
Brew DHB at 200mg and let me know how it is the PIP.
Then you brew those same substances at 250mg/100mg/50mg and let me know if there is any PIP.
My chihuahua could brew those concentration and make a PIPless gear.
So what is it? The substance or the concentration of said substance that give PIP? (Plus many other variables, some of those very personal too).
Trust me bro doesn't fly here, you should know well, so you gonna stand by your words and explain or you gonna admit you drink too much yesterday and call it one of those night?
nightprowler7
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You are the one making the claim they cause pip, So post the proof of your claim. You use primo test e anc dhb as examples lol, all of which give pip at regular concentrations. Post your proof that high concentrations is what causes pip.I tried to engage with you in a polite way and I was curious if you had an explanation, tho you didn't explain shit and you are now trying to move the conversation on me and my zero experience.
First of all, experience and knowledge are two different things most of the time they go together sometime they can be on different levels.
I have never said anywhere I'm an expert. Tho I hardly talk without first having studied extensively on the subject or having first hand experience or both, brewing is not complicated either and I'm dabbling only in long ester (a lot easier compared to short ester)
I'm always open to admit I made a mistake or said something stupid if a person explain to me why and there is reasons in his explanation.
Where is your explanation?
Brew test E 500mg and let me know how is the PIP.
Brew primo at 400mg and let me know how it is the PIP.
Brew DHB at 200mg and let me know how it is the PIP.
Then you brew those same substances at 250mg/100mg/50mg and let me know if there is any PIP.
My chihuahua could brew those concentration and make a PIPless gear.
So what is it? The substance or the concentration of said substance that give PIP? (Plus many other variables, some of those very personal too).
Trust me bro doesn't fly here, you should know well, so you gonna stand by your words and explain or you gonna admit you drink too much yesterday and call it one of those night?
nightprowler7
Well-known Member
Mast p 200 no pip
Test c 400 no pip
Mast e 400 and 500 no pip
Test d 500 no pip
Test u 400 no pip
EQ 500 no pip
Deca 400 no pip
I could go on. But you are all knowing 1 month brewing expert. Making claims of shit you have no proof of. On ignore, retard.
Test c 400 no pip
Mast e 400 and 500 no pip
Test d 500 no pip
Test u 400 no pip
EQ 500 no pip
Deca 400 no pip
I could go on. But you are all knowing 1 month brewing expert. Making claims of shit you have no proof of. On ignore, retard.
You are the retard here. The substance is the one giving PIP in relation to the concentration
Some substances are prone to give PIP at low moderate concentration some other need to get past a specific point before giving pip.
You just made a list of all the substances that are famous for not being pippy at high concentration the same I have brewed personally.
So what about test E 500? What about Tren E 400? What about test P 100/200? Its PIPless at 50mg.
What about tren A?
I'm wasting my time with you, you proved yourself how retarded you are lol
Your example is faulty as fuck because I brewed Primo 200 no pip and I have brewed dhb 120mg (thanks @narta ) with zero pip. Primo is famous for being pippy at normal concentration? Yeah maybe with your shitty brewing skill.
Yeah do all of us a favour put me on ignore and get the fuck out of this thread as your contribution is 0, even the opposite you are preading misinformation that is even worse
Btw good luck having test C not crashing every two seconds at 400mg concentration. Clown
narta
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36 hours post injection report.
I can just tell I pinned there and only when I'm sitting specifically hitting that spot, it's not annoying tho, neither painful, I can walk perfectly and one could train no problem.
I had injection from other normal compound more troublesome then this one.
MAYBE I have done it guys but let's wait the 48hrs mark and let's wait for me to inject 1 ML into the shoulder and see how it goes with smaller muscle spot.
So 1.5ml in glute is perfectly doable, if one where to add some other compound to it probably it would even reduce the PIP further to non existent.
1ml in glute mostly would be even easier.
These are all speculation of course.
Will report back again in few days
Hey @nightprowler7 why don't you suck my big fat primo 300 almost PIPless vial?
I can just tell I pinned there and only when I'm sitting specifically hitting that spot, it's not annoying tho, neither painful, I can walk perfectly and one could train no problem.
I had injection from other normal compound more troublesome then this one.
MAYBE I have done it guys but let's wait the 48hrs mark and let's wait for me to inject 1 ML into the shoulder and see how it goes with smaller muscle spot.
So 1.5ml in glute is perfectly doable, if one where to add some other compound to it probably it would even reduce the PIP further to non existent.
1ml in glute mostly would be even easier.
These are all speculation of course.
Will report back again in few days
Hey @nightprowler7 why don't you suck my big fat primo 300 almost PIPless vial?
Pinned 1ml in the shoulder, here we go guys, if tomorrow I can lift my arm it's all good xD
So final report of primo 300:
1.5ml in glute is perfectly fine.
1ml in shoulder is not fine xD I mean it's ok you can still train and move your arm but it's annoying, pip is clearly there so not recommended in the shoulder.
I'll keep brewing it as it cut down on injection volume and it's fine if used in glutes or other big muscles. Probably even easier if you mix with some other compound all in the same syringe (I shot 1.5ml of pure primo 300 to test it)
And if you shoot 1ml it's gonna be even easier probably can do Monday/Wednesday/Friday alternating right glute left glute right glute etc.
In the future I'll try 250mg just to see if there is any difference or not.
Btw I believe I'll keep brewing all the primo in castor oil, even the 200mg/ml. It can be shot with a 1ml syringe and 27g or 2/3ml syringe and 25G and the anti inflammatory properties are great.
I'll brew other stuff in castor too, long ester like decanoate so that one can just pin once a week, so deca will be brewed in Castor.
Anything else will be in MCT.
1.5ml in glute is perfectly fine.
1ml in shoulder is not fine xD I mean it's ok you can still train and move your arm but it's annoying, pip is clearly there so not recommended in the shoulder.
I'll keep brewing it as it cut down on injection volume and it's fine if used in glutes or other big muscles. Probably even easier if you mix with some other compound all in the same syringe (I shot 1.5ml of pure primo 300 to test it)
And if you shoot 1ml it's gonna be even easier probably can do Monday/Wednesday/Friday alternating right glute left glute right glute etc.
In the future I'll try 250mg just to see if there is any difference or not.
Btw I believe I'll keep brewing all the primo in castor oil, even the 200mg/ml. It can be shot with a 1ml syringe and 27g or 2/3ml syringe and 25G and the anti inflammatory properties are great.
I'll brew other stuff in castor too, long ester like decanoate so that one can just pin once a week, so deca will be brewed in Castor.
Anything else will be in MCT.
Ateam2023
Well-known Member
i wonder how the pip would be in the quads or vg , larger muscle must be the ticket,,,,
I can try VG on Friday
Quad I ain't trying xD I have kinda virgin quad I rarely use them and when I do I still get some pip here and there, not gonna lie man... I ain't crippling myself for the glory ahahah so no quad.
But VG sure I'll do it tomorrow!
1ml ok?
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Guys I have to admit defeat at least on the primo 300.
I mean after 5 days I still have PIP in my glute, ok nothing unbearable but still I have it. This is not what I was expecting and funny enough it did increase at the 72h mark....
It still doable even in the shoulder but what's the point of brewing your own gear if you are having pip left and right?
It's better to inject 4ml of primo 200 PIPless then 2.5-3ml of primo 300 that is giving you this annoying pip for days.
So no, castor oil couldn't overcome the primo bitcheness.
Sorry if I have made you dream of a world full of primo xD
Quick recap of PIPless gear:
Test D 500
Deca 400
Masteron 400
NPP 200
EQ 500
Primo 200
Test C 300
Still in doubt: Tren E 250
This is it for now, have a lovely weekend you all.
I mean after 5 days I still have PIP in my glute, ok nothing unbearable but still I have it. This is not what I was expecting and funny enough it did increase at the 72h mark....
It still doable even in the shoulder but what's the point of brewing your own gear if you are having pip left and right?
It's better to inject 4ml of primo 200 PIPless then 2.5-3ml of primo 300 that is giving you this annoying pip for days.
So no, castor oil couldn't overcome the primo bitcheness.
Sorry if I have made you dream of a world full of primo xD
Quick recap of PIPless gear:
Test D 500
Deca 400
Masteron 400
NPP 200
EQ 500
Primo 200
Test C 300
Still in doubt: Tren E 250
This is it for now, have a lovely weekend you all.
I know everyone is different but I have some tren e 300 that is pip free but I've only ever tries it in the d glute with about 1000mg of other shit at the same time.
Peace lil bud
I'll try it soon, the doubt comes from not having it injected ever (the 250mg brew) so that's why I'm on the fence. Very interesting about the 300mg pip free too. I'll have to experiment more it seems.
Stay safe buddy, always a pleasure when you drop by
I do have some tren a 200 i have been using for about 3 weeks at 160mg per pin... it has a little bite to it but not horrible..
Thankfully I don't dabble in short ester or that would be another rabbit hole to explore xD
Yes i agree i am switching to tren E next week.. pinning ed gets old as fuck.. i would rather stick to long esters when I can...
I feel you brother. Pinning ED is a nightmare I swear to myself I would have never do it again and I didn't xD
I already inject so many peptides everyday ahaha fuck injecting AAS ED too.
I hope to do this shit for a long time so the less I pin the better I feel
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