SARM PCT Help

[Juice1971]

So this is my first post on mesoRX and i am intending to run my first ever 6 week cycle of ostarine and lgd4033. i have done a lot of research upon how i should run this, and my plan looks currently like this:
Week 1 to 3: 4mg lgd, 20mg osta ED
Week 4 to 6: 8mg lgd, 20mg osta ED

I have heard that both LGD and ostarine cause suppression after 4 weeks, so my main concern would be recovery. Many people say that PCT is not necessary, but i believe that stacking both of the compounds together would mean that more suppression would occur, hence i would need PCT.
Many people have recommended that i would only need something mild like HCGenerate, or D Aspartic acid, but i fear that it might not be enough, seeing that some people are even saying that those do not even work. Do you think i should run a SERM as a PCT? Or maybe even an AI?
Thanks

 

[ickyrica]

HCDegenerate huh?

 

[ickyrica]

You should post in the new member section. Give us your goals, stats, history etc. Welcome, you from evo?

 

[Juice1971]

Nope, first time joining the forums
Ill post my stats soon

 

[Michael Scally MD]

You need to do more Research, alot more!

 

[Juice1971]

You need to do more Research, alot more!

I agree. I am currently considering arimistane, which i would start running during week 5 and continue on for 3 weeks after the cycle whilst tapering down the dosage as i go. Do you think that preventing the endogenous testosterone from aromatising would be sufficient to ultimately stimulate more natural testosterone production in order to recover my normal baseline test levels? What would you yourself recommend as a PCT for this SARM stack?
Promuscle products, the website ive ordered my products from recommends their off-shelf PCT product called OrbPharma PCT advanced.

 

[canadian mutant]

Everything you heard about SARMs was simply bullshit to get you to buy the product. They brainwashed you my friend

 

[Flaming Dragon]

Don't tell me you were born in 1971.. that would make you 45yrs old! At that age (if that's your true age) the worse you can do is run oral.. I don't know about you-but Fing up my liver at the age is a no go! You got to look at the risk vs reward.. Many and including myself will say that taking 500-600mg per week of Testosterone injection can yield a greater results than taking SARMS! This way, regardless if you take SARM or injectable..you're going to encounter suppression of your natty test.

and HCGenerate..LOL!! Don't let Dylan Gemelli and his crew make you one of his fool (a fool and his money is soon parted)

 

[Juice1971]

Don't tell me you were born in 1971.. that would make you 45yrs old! At that age (if that's your true age) the worse you can do is run oral.. I don't know about you-but Fing up my liver at the age is a no go! You got to look at the risk vs reward.. Many and including myself will say that taking 500-600mg per week of Testosterone injection can yield a greater results than taking SARMS! This way, regardless if you take SARM or injectable..you're going to encounter suppression of your natty test.

and HCGenerate..LOL!! Don't let Dylan Gemelli and his crew make you one of his fool (a fool and his money is soon parted)

Lol, I'm 19

And yeah i dont want to run HCGenerate, £70 for some bullshit supplement...

I already have the SARMS, i brought an LGD and ostarine stack, and i have 60x 4mg LGD and 90x 10mg ostarine.

A lot of the information on the evolution forums is coming from the SARMS1 provider, who of couse is interested in making the most amount of money...

However, i have seen/watched legit logs of people gaining up to even 15lbs of lean muscle.

I do not want to do test, i do not want to mess up my endocrine system, i believe i am too young.

So far for PCT i want to run
Week 1: 40mg Nolvadex ED
Week 2-3 20mg Nolvadex ED

I also have some Tribulus laying around so i might as well make use of that after finishing my cycle and before anyone says i wasted my money on the Tribulus, i got it for free

Thoughts on that??

 

[RodgerThat]

Lol, I'm 19

And yeah i dont want to run HCGenerate, £70 for some bullshit supplement...

I already have the SARMS, i brought an LGD and ostarine stack, and i have 60x 4mg LGD and 90x 10mg ostarine.

A lot of the information on the evolution forums is coming from the SARMS1 provider, who of couse is interested in making the most amount of money...

However, i have seen/watched legit logs of people gaining up to even 15lbs of lean muscle.

I do not want to do test, i do not want to mess up my endocrine system, i believe i am too young.

So far for PCT i want to run
Week 1: 40mg Nolvadex ED
Week 2-3 20mg Nolvadex ED

I also have some Tribulus laying around so i might as well make use of that after finishing my cycle and before anyone says i wasted my money on the Tribulus, i got it for free

Thoughts on that??

Why do you think the suppression from the sarms is different from the suppression of test?

 

[Eman]

I do not want to do test, i do not want to mess up my endocrine system, i believe i am too young

What makes you think SARMS aren't capable of screwing with your endocrine system?

 

[Flaming Dragon]

Lol, I'm 19

And yeah i dont want to run HCGenerate, £70 for some bullshit supplement...

I already have the SARMS, i brought an LGD and ostarine stack, and i have 60x 4mg LGD and 90x 10mg ostarine.

A lot of the information on the evolution forums is coming from the SARMS1 provider, who of couse is interested in making the most amount of money...

However, i have seen/watched legit logs of people gaining up to even 15lbs of lean muscle.

I do not want to do test, i do not want to mess up my endocrine system, i believe i am too young.

So far for PCT i want to run
Week 1: 40mg Nolvadex ED
Week 2-3 20mg Nolvadex ED

I also have some Tribulus laying around so i might as well make use of that after finishing my cycle and before anyone says i wasted my money on the Tribulus, i got it for free

Thoughts on that??

Oh you're 19...First, I thought you're old and uneducated.. Now, you're young and stupid.. Have fun with your cycle!

 

[Flaming Dragon]

What makes you think SARMS aren't capable of screwing with your endocrine system?

That's the thing.. he doesn't think beyond what he read online... He believe SARM will give him 15lb of lean muscle, beach model body status, getting and pounding chicks left and right.. He'll soon found out because no matter what you tell him....side effect, limp-noodle dick, little to none libido, and can shut down his natty test.. But who cares, he knows better!

 

[Juice1971]

What makes you think SARMS aren't capable of screwing with your endocrine system?

Sar

That's the thing.. he doesn't think beyond what he read online... He believe SARM will give him 15lb of lean muscle, beach model body status, getting and pounding chicks left and right.. He'll soon found out because no matter what you tell him....side effect, limp-noodle dick, little to none libido, and can shut down his natty test.. But who cares, he knows better!

Okay guys i know you will be biased and tell me to take a test cycle and say that i will waste my money on sarms. But i am willing to try them out. If they dont work then tough. What i want you guys to tell me is how i should take it SAFELY.

Peace

 

[RodgerThat]

Sar


Okay guys i know you will be biased and tell me to take a test cycle and say that i will waste my money on sarms. But i am willing to try them out. If they dont work then tough. What i want you guys to tell me is how i should take it SAFELY.

Peace

Administer it in one large dose directly into the toilet and flush. You are too young to screw with your hormonal system whether it's test or sarms doesn't matter! I wouldn't reccomend either cause you don't need either you need discipline and nutrition/training advice

 

[Eman]

Okay guys i know you will be biased and tell me to take a test cycle and say that i will waste my money on sarms. But i am willing to try them out. If they dont work then tough. What i want you guys to tell me is how i should take it SAFELY.

Peace

Why would I be biased? I've taken SARMs. I've taken quite a few different SARMS actually.

So, when you say I'm biased I suppose you are correct because I've also taken AAS and there is no debate on which is better.

The only thing I can see SARMS having a legitimate use for would be to throw something in to a trt dose of test for cutting or something? It wouldn't even be worth it to use for bulking because there are options that are much better.

SARMs alone are not a good idea and IMO, there is no safe or optimal way to run them without test. Even with test, I don't think they are worth the cost.

Best of luck.

Administer it in one large dose directly into the toilet and flush.

Lol

 

[Eman]

Sar


Okay guys i know you will be biased and tell me to take a test cycle and say that i will waste my money on sarms. But i am willing to try them out. If they dont work then tough. What i want you guys to tell me is how i should take it SAFELY.

Peace

BTW, guys here will be more than happy to help you succeed with your goals naturally.

 

[Juice1971]

What makes you think SARMS aren't capable of screwing with your endocrine system?

They will, but not to the same extent as AAS.
I have read a study that showed just 1mg of LGD was able to yeild a 1.4kg increase in lean body mass. That study also showed that testosterone levels decreased down to around 200ng/dL the lowest, at day 20 out of 28 and then jumped slightly back up towards day 28. Test levels returned back to normal though without any exogenous substance. i will be taking 4mg, so i want to run PCT in order to prevent suppresion.

A study on ostarine also concludes that 3mg of ostarine increased LBM by 1.4kg over a 12 week period, and total testosterone also decreased, but only by a minute amount.

My main concern would be the LGD causing most of the shutdown, which is why i would like to run nolvadex to raise natural test levels when im off the cycle.

What do you think??

 

[Juice1971]

Why would I be biased? I've taken SARMs. I've taken quite a few different SARMS actually.

So, when you say I'm biased I suppose you are correct because I've also taken AAS and there is no debate on which is better.

The only thing I can see SARMS having a legitimate use for would be to throw something in to a trt dose of test for cutting or something? It wouldn't even be worth it to use for bulking because there are options that are much better.

SARMs alone are not a good idea and IMO, there is no safe or optimal way to run them without test. Even with test, I don't think they are worth the cost.

Best of luck.



Lol

I've already brought them. What sarms did you run and what kind of gains did you see?

Thanks brother

 

[CdnGuy]

Lol, I'm 19

You get a pass on this one then...you know no better

edit- @Demondosage maybe you should preach some knowledge too this kidd since you are a Sarms shill/fan boy!