(SARM)selective androgen receptor modulator

[focus]

Hi Folks,
Its been a while since my last post. Just wondering if durring may leave from the forum has anyone done re-search into SARM's? If you dont know what I am talking about I provided a link to a company that has SARM's in its pipeline of new products or should I say future products.
http://www.gtxinc.com/tech/pipeline.htm The product I and most of you are interested in is called: Andarine its link is: http://www.gtxinc.com/tech/andarine.htm Again if you don't know what it is view the link. I want to know has anything like andarine been placed out on the underground market yet?

Thanks for any input,
focus

 

[spillburt]

Hi Folks,
Its been a while since my last post. Just wondering if durring may leave from the forum has anyone done re-search into SARM's? If you dont know what I am talking about I provided a link to a company that has SARM's in its pipeline of new products or should I say future products.
http://www.gtxinc.com/tech/pipeline.htm The product I and most of you are interested in is called: Andarine its link is: http://www.gtxinc.com/tech/andarine.htm Again if you don't know what it is view the link. I want to know has anything like andarine been placed out on the underground market yet?

Thanks for any input,
focus

There is some good info about this product. http://www.mbventures.com/index.php?id=440

"GTx has designed its SARMs to bind to the androgen receptor in a manner that maximizes the beneficial effects and minimizes the unwanted effects of testosterone. "

It also promotes IGF1 production. Interesting compound. Where do I sign up?

 

[focus]

Andarine (SARM)

Spillburt,
Thanks for adding to the thread. What I am wondering is since some formula exists for making Andarine because it is being used in clinical trials is can't anyone get some made in an underground lab & sell it to people in need before we get to old to enjoy its mostly side effect free benifits?

focus

 

[MaxRep]

Spillburt,
Thanks for adding to the thread. What I am wondering is since some formula exists for making Andarine because it is being used in clinical trials is can't anyone get some made in an underground lab & sell it to people in need before we get to old to enjoy its mostly side effect free benifits?

focus

Perhaps we should let the drug go through phase 2 and phase 3 trials before we start talking about all its wonderful and "side effect free" benefits.

MaxRep

 

[Dowstrategy]

Good Advice MaxRep

while I am not a researcher, I am a person who Has followed the biotech and pharm industry very closely for many years. Phase 1 trials are sooo early and so often the drugs prove to be worthless or dangerous that waiting until phase 2 results are positive (for the more experimentally inclined) or even phase 3 results for those more conservative is solid advice from MaxRep.

 

[focus]

Andarine

MaxRep & Dowstrategy thanks for the advice while you are both 100% correct, most bodybuilders are playing some form of Russian Rullet with the drugs & drug cocktails they use even if they have been through all phases\trials they most often are still using them for purposes not intended & in higher doses than tested in trials. Some bodybuilders don't even know the difference between the anti-estrogens mode of action\anti-aromatase or receptor blocker etc. & how each type anti-E may effect blood cholestrol\weather they act as estrogen or an anti-estrogen in certain target tissues like the prostatet, brain, bone etc., I find some bodybuilders have not even thought about these issues. (This does not help the image of bodybuilding as you both know)

I thought I might get flamed for my second post in this thread for not taking the content to the classifieds since I was asking about availabilty. I came back to the thread to see if I was flamed & saw your response on letting trials run the coarse. (I know your not flaming me & offered sound advice) Even though this drug has not been through phase II trials I have followed it & think it is a reasonable choice for me (over age 40) to try my own form of callculated Russian Rullet with. I know Andarine may not be free of all negative effects the developers may find in later trials. Most these negative effects if any no doubt will come from the fact that Andarine attaches to the androgen receptor & in doing such may not be completely free from DHT like effects or virilization in women. (It may be found even in non-testosterone substances androgen\anabolic seperation can not be 100% eliminated?) I know that Andarine can not convert to DHT or Estrogen & would be willing to try Andarine for these properties. I was wondering what anyone knew about this drug from use if it had ever hit the gym bag? I guess it has not become available on the underground pipeline yet from the lack of feedback? You see I was & am not sure if some folks may be using this drug now that its out so I was just asking?

Thanks,
focus

 

[MaxRep]

Focus,
I've never heard of this product being available outside a bonafide lab. There is currently testing going on in various labs on SARM's. Various labs have come up with their own unique fomulas. No one has yet proven theirs is the best. SARM's are primarily being tested for BPH, testosterone replacement and male contraceptives.

There seems to be a lot of potential however, I've seen way too many products get started with a lot of hype and then fizzle out. And or show themselves to be unsuitable for use due to various side effects that didn't become apparent until long term testing on large populations was done.

We all know what frequently happens to guinea pigs...

MaxRep

 

[Dowstrategy]

A Little Further

The link I read was nothing more than the usual information posted by smaller drug companies or larger ones, essentially hype and glowing positives with a pot load of disclaimers to prevent unhappy investors from sueing. Madman and I work in the same field so maybe he will post a little too.