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[IndividualMan]

beautiful crsytals, now you just gotta grind them down.
A nice mortar and pestle for this kind of stuff is wonderful

 

[dinfaralt]

@Walter Hype welcome back to meso!

 

[Walter Hype]

i got alot to say about this thread and some of the misinformation being spread but i dont have time at this time to address everything. Great to see progress on the thread and i like some of the experiments iv seen. Though like i said some advice spread here is off the mark and not the most efficient path. particular when it comes to tren ace and the use of ethanol.

i very strongly recommend the experimenters here research polymorphs of your particular steroid. It matters in a big way and can mean the difference between a good recovery and a mid one

 

[Photon]

pucks looking good
no smell at all

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Sent for testing..finger's crossed

 

[dinfaralt]

Sent for testing..finger's crossed

is there pre testing aswell?

 

[IndividualMan]

wasnt the 86% tested by photon?

 

[dinfaralt]

wasnt the 86% tested by photon?

might be i have alot of stuff to do atm so not best memory

 

[Photon]

is there pre testing aswell?

Janoshik Analytical

 

[Walter Hype]

Sent for testing..finger's crossed

No smell is a great sign our noses assuming you don't have a disability are very strong at detecting even the tiniest amount of solvents so if you're not smelling anything at all you're likely not to detect anything at all even with a gcms or whatever solvent test you can throw at it

Every time tren comes with a smell you can be certain that they're synthesis pathway was cut short to save time and they did not extract all the solvents

This is especially true with tren ace

 

[Walter Hype]

I like the color that you got from this process as far as appearances is concerned it looks like it's more aligned to what you should expect

If you want to get a microscope and have a little fun take a sample look at it under a microscope if it looks like hexagonal crystals or stop sign shape you achieve the right polymorph and you likely also got a very pure outcome

 

[Photon]

I like the color that you got from this process as far as appearances is concerned it looks like it's more aligned to what you should expect

If you want to get a microscope and have a little fun take a sample look at it under a microscope if it looks like hexagonal crystals or stop sign shape you achieve the right polymorph and you likely also got a very pure outcome

Have you seen AAS crash badly in oils?
They produce huge hard crystals, like those used for jewelry.
Those look so much better.

I used to have a 100ml vial of TNE which crashed slowly over months.
It had a huge snowflake in it.

 

[Walter Hype]

Have you seen AAS crash badly in oils?
They produce huge hard crystals, like those used for jewelry.
Those look so much better.

I used to have a 100ml vial of TNE which crashed slowly over months.
It had a huge snowflake in it.

Well yeah they do form quite strong crystals. However the issue is then you got to worry about extracting the oil bag and bb. But you could take a few notes from the polarity of the mixture and copy it using a solvent system instead that way you can simplify the extraction process


I have successfully numerously time extracted crystals from fully brewed mixes. It's doable. Been doing it to fix failed brews. Handy skill.


I keep quite a big backlog of different solvents hexane DCM and acetone are quite useful even if they seem dangerous they are quite easy to extract especially with a strong vacuum. Dcm is very useful for liquid to liquid extractions. Dead easy to remove. Literally boils at room temp. Smell is awful tho........

 

[mongo5165]

So this Tren Ace has been the bane of my existence messing with it. Initally i used acetone, and no recystallization at all, no matter how far i reduced the acetone. After that, I followed the recommendation of using EA, then adding heptane once cooled until cloudy, raws fall out like powder making it really hard to retrieve. So I switched to ethanol, did not crash no matter how cold I got it so added a little bit of heptane, this seemed to help but it still fell out as a powder still. Any advice on getting the crystals to form ? Im just messing around with 1g until I can figure it out. Every attempt had been a slow cooling process, 2hrs at room temp, overnight in the fridge and then placed in a deep freezer at -21F

 

[Walter Hype]

So this Tren Ace has been the bane of my existence messing with it. Initally i used acetone, and no recystallization at all, no matter how far i reduced the acetone. After that, I followed the recommendation of using EA, then adding heptane once cooled until cloudy, raws fall out like powder making it really hard to retrieve. So I switched to ethanol, did not crash no matter how cold I got it so added a little bit of heptane, this seemed to help but it still fell out as a powder still. Any advice on getting the crystals to form ? Im just messing around with 1g until I can figure it out. Every attempt had been a slow cooling process, 2hrs at room temp, overnight in the fridge and then placed in a deep freezer at -21F

Hey man I'm going to comment on this because this is something I was going to address


Acetone is the solvent of choice no matter what anyone here says the issue is you need to have dehydrated acetone and also a really really really depends on how fast you're expecting to extract these crystals


My original experimentation almost a year ago was with strictly acetone and tren ace. You can use water after the fact to help Force out crashing but you need a slow crash to get anything useful


Acetone is a solvent of choice because it's the only one that's going to form the polymorphous hexagonal crystals


Would I suggest you do is dry out whatever you have in full with a vacuum get that stuff ultra dry

Get your acetone extremely dry

If you need to buy pre dehydrated acetone


Try it again dissolve your sample with a bare minimum amount of acetone required


Let it sit at room temperature then take distilled deionized water and do drop wise until it just about hits the cloud point


The cloud point being it gets very cloudy

Then when it reaches the cloud point you're going to want to take more acetone and drop it back in into it just about clears up ever so slightly


That is your fine balance and that is where you want to be then take that and let it sit in your fridge 24 hours 72 hours whatever it takes


You can take a very tiny amount of your tren ace and sprinkle it in if after 24 hours nothing crashes or even better take a glass rod and scratch the bottom of your beaker very lightly then quickly leave it alone stick it back in the fridge


You should get something.

From that point you can quickly stick it in your freezer and then again stick it in the freezer for 24 hours or longer as long as it takes to get everything to crash out


If everything goes right you're solvent or mother liquid should be colored significantly so

But the stuff on the bottom is extremely light Canary

This is your first crop and this is the best crop get that stuff to vacuum filter out wash it with water whatever it takes then dry the crap out of it


Tada you have the most ideal form of tren ace in human existence


I was able to do this on my first try and it was great


All this talk of using ethanol and all these other misguided steps is just going to spin you in circles and get you nowhere

Acetone. Tren ace. That combo is the combo of choice with a careful addition of water for the anti solvent

 

[mongo5165]

Hey man I'm going to comment on this because this is something I was going to address


Acetone is the solvent of choice no matter what anyone here says the issue is you need to have dehydrated acetone and also a really really really depends on how fast you're expecting to extract these crystals


My original experimentation almost a year ago was with strictly acetone and tren ace. You can use water after the fact to help Force out crashing but you need a slow crash to get anything useful


Acetone is a solvent of choice because it's the only one that's going to form the polymorphous hexagonal crystals


Would I suggest you do is dry out whatever you have in full with a vacuum get that stuff ultra dry

Get your acetone extremely dry

If you need to buy pre dehydrated acetone


Try it again dissolve your sample with a bare minimum amount of acetone required


Let it sit at room temperature then take distilled deionized water and do drop wise until it just about hits the cloud point


The cloud point being it gets very cloudy

Then when it reaches the cloud point you're going to want to take more acetone and drop it back in into it just about clears up ever so slightly


That is your fine balance and that is where you want to be then take that and let it sit in your fridge 24 hours 72 hours whatever it takes


You can take a very tiny amount of your tren ace and sprinkle it in if after 24 hours nothing crashes or even better take a glass rod and scratch the bottom of your beaker very lightly then quickly leave it alone stick it back in the fridge


You should get something.

From that point you can quickly stick it in your freezer and then again stick it in the freezer for 24 hours or longer as long as it takes to get everything to crash out


If everything goes right you're solvent or mother liquid should be colored significantly so

But the stuff on the bottom is extremely light Canary

This is your first crop and this is the best crop get that stuff to vacuum filter out wash it with water whatever it takes then dry the crap out of it


Tada you have the most ideal form of tren ace in human existence


I was able to do this on my first try and it was great


All this talk of using ethanol and all these other misguided steps is just going to spin you in circles and get you nowhere

Acetone. Tren ace. That combo is the combo of choice with a careful addition of water for the anti solvent

Thanks for the info, ill go ahead and give it a try. I have some dried mole sieves, ill use those to dehydrate the acetone first

 

[Walter Hype]

I've been doing this for just about a year now a little bit over and I've experimented with various solvent systems various extracting methods and I'm even going as far as using liquid to liquid extraction for certain raws

Ethanol is the solvent of choice for testosterone e. If hepatonic acid is present in significant quantities this will be a significant challenge to extract and neutralize you're going to have to do a liquidity extraction to neutralize the acid with zero heat to help preserve the hormone. But in general multiple crashes and passes with ethanol will clean this up nicely.

Acetone will be the solvent of choice for tren ace

Liquid to liquid extraction methods for eq
Bleaching powder and activated charcoal with DCM or hexane. NOT ACTUAL BLEACH Perform 5000 Highly Acid Activated Bleaching & Decolorizing Bentonite

Test U is again great with ethanol

Proviron is greatly purified with acetone.
And water.

 

[Walter Hype]

Thanks for the info, ill go ahead and give it a try. I have some dried mole sieves, ill use those to dehydrate the acetone first

When you use those sieves. Suggest once it's fully deactivated and absorbed all the moisture it can you're going to notice your acetone look cloudy. Filter your acetone with a filter system. This is the help extract all those little powders that the sieves love to disperse into your acetone. Or you could just let it sit and let it settle to the bottom but sometimes that takes a while.

 

[mongo5165]

When you use those sieves. Suggest once it's fully deactivated and absorbed all the moisture it can you're going to notice your acetone look cloudy. Filter your acetone with a filter system. This is the help extract all those little powders that the sieves love to disperse into your acetone. Or you could just let it sit and let it settle to the bottom but sometimes that takes a while.

I did exactly that, pulled with a syringe and filtered with a 0.2 ptfe membrane to remove sieve residue

 

[Motojager]

So this Tren Ace has been the bane of my existence messing with it. Initally i used acetone, and no recystallization at all, no matter how far i reduced the acetone. After that, I followed the recommendation of using EA, then adding heptane once cooled until cloudy, raws fall out like powder making it really hard to retrieve. So I switched to ethanol, did not crash no matter how cold I got it so added a little bit of heptane, this seemed to help but it still fell out as a powder still. Any advice on getting the crystals to form ? Im just messing around with 1g until I can figure it out. Every attempt had been a slow cooling process, 2hrs at room temp, overnight in the fridge and then placed in a deep freezer at -21F

I would bet you are introducing the heptane to quickly or too much at a time. Slow down with the heptane additions. Drip wait, drip wait. Rapid addition of any poor solvent (antisolvent) to a good solvent system universally causes fine dust-like crystals by creating excessive supersaturation that favors massive nucleation over growth. Despite what dingleberry says on acetone it is not a better choice for the best outcome. Acetone dissolves both tren ace and polar byproducts uniformly due to strong hydrogen bonding and high dielectric constant, leading to co-precipitation or occlusion in the lattice. It keep the shit you don't want in there too. What's the point of recryst. if just going to trap shit back in. In reality you can use any system of solvents to just make crystals. Matching the right ones is what makes it worth doing or not.

 

[Walter Hype]

I did exactly that, pulled with a syringe and filtered with a 0.2 ptfe membrane to remove sieve residue

yeah just figured id throw that out there. i will add that when you recrystallize it naturally rejects impurity's by nature of the polymorph being formed id not worry about impurity's falling out this is a party where only like like to stick together and the losers dont get to join something some people dont get or understand or fail to articulate <3 trust the acetone path. its the only one that forms hexagon plates and STRONGLY keeps tren ace together which pushes out the nasty little goblins.

if i can find the nice papers i scoured the web for a year ago and pull them back from the void ill share here for more concreate proof of this logic. Lost alot of my research during a nuke on my group. but theres been research done on tren ace for cattle purification and other fields. hexagonal plates is what your after at all costs. if you need assistance with testing cost ill Glady contribute


not all solvent systems create the hexagonal plates.