Second cycle (dbol,test E)

[TrouDuQ]

Hello everyone.

I will do a second cycle as follow:

wk 1-10 test E 250mg. I will inject 250 mg on Sunday and wednesday which are my rest days.
wk 1-6 Dbol @ 30mg-50mg ED
wk 1-12 nolva 10mg ED
wk 12-15 20mg nolvadex and clomid day 1 of pct 300mg of clomid,second week 100mg ED of clomid and last week 50 mg ED.
Maybe Clenbuterol with the pct still not sure.

I will be taking Taurine 3 mg,milk thistle 1g,I will try to get some propecia or avodart and Nizoral.If acne immerges I will take doxycycline.

Diet : 1 gallon of water ED,320-350 gr of proteins,400 gr of carbs and 145 gr of fats. I hate vegetables but I will eat around 800 gr of green beans and tomatoes.

Actual stats: height 6.0 ft,weight: 230 pounds

Bench press : 260 pounds bench press,475 pounds deadlift and 365 for squat,overhead press 205 pounds. (2 reps each)

5 days split (chest,back,rest,legs,shoulders,arms)

I need your opinion and your advice. MANY thanks.

 

[Savagesteve]

Wait 3 weeks before pct. also I don't see any mention of an AI which you're gonna need running dbol. I personally don't see a need front loading clomid. Just run clomid 50/50/50/50 and nolva 20/20/20/20 for pct.

 

[TrouDuQ]

Absolutely right sir but I should wait 2 weeks for pct and not 3 ? Because the ester life s around 11 days?

For the AI i was going to go with Aromasin but what is the best dosage?

 

[Savagesteve]

Wait 3 weeks cause test e half life is 5 days and you wait approx. 4 half lives before starting pct. aromasin would be used typically at 12.5mg eod but blood work is needed to dial in the ai. Make sure you get pharm grade ai cause the aromatization of dbol is no punk and I don't want to see your next thread saying "I have tits help"

 

[TrouDuQ]

Many big thanks to the boss savagesteve

Any other tips?

Should i inject the test with a small gauge ? will it go smooth with the 25 and above?


Thanks again.

 

[Savagesteve]

Many big thanks to the boss savagesteve

Any other tips?

Should i inject the test with a small gauge ? will it go smooth with the 25 and above?


Thanks again.

I just tried 25 gauge for the first time last night pinning 2ml and it wasn't bad just took a while to fill the barrel and to get it to go into glute. It'll work though just a little more patience is needed. Good luck on the run and keep us updated on the cycle log section!

 

[TrouDuQ]

Thank you so much bro. I will start the cycle next week. I will keep everyone updated.

 

[Savagesteve]

Thank you so much bro. I will start the cycle next week. I will keep everyone updated.

No problem man and don't let the research stop here.

 

[TrouDuQ]

I want to share this video and at the same time the channel of that dude. He gives amazing tips in my opinion.

 

[Jav]

Many big thanks to the boss savagesteve

Any other tips?

Should i inject the test with a small gauge ? will it go smooth with the 25 and above?


Thanks again.

What worked really well for me is using an 18g to draw the test. Then switch to a 25g to pin. With the 18g it draws nice and easy, and takes about 30 seconds.

 

[TrouDuQ]

Bro if you dont mind what is the best site to inject in? I am still thinking between thigh, glutes or delts ? (the most painless one lol)

 

[Jav]

I started with glutes, then switched to quads. Easy to see, and I got no PIP.

 

[TrouDuQ]

For your quads what do u use as gauge ?

 

[Jav]

I've used 22g and 25g. Both 1" long needles. I don't noctice a difference in either size.

 

[Schrapnel85]

I'd try to stay away from 18g needles for drawing they are very hard on the rubber tops and may cause some pieces to fall in. I use 20g now and haven't had any issues.
I pin quads and use a 23g 1 inch.
The guy on enhanced athlete YouTube backfills insulin needles and then says you can inject anywhere with ease. Never personally tried it just something to think about. Here's the link

 

[Schrapnel85]

@TrouDuQ I noticed you aren't using hcg in your pct. I highly advise you to implement that!

 

[TrouDuQ]

I did it in purpose here is why:

I am going to quote a guy from another website well known :

HCG and When to Use It

A lot of cycles recently have HCG in them and I think that we must understand exactly what the purpose of HCG is and how to properly use it on cycle and PCT. HCG is only used on long cycles or extremely high dosed cycles. Not on a Test only cycle lasting 12 weeks or stacking with another low dosed compound. 12 or more weeks and heavy dosages warrant the use of HCG. Let’s look at why….

Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is a hormone produced during pregnancy that is made by the developing placenta after conception, and later by the placental component syncytiotrophoblast. Some cancerous tumors produce this hormone; therefore, elevated levels measured when the patient is not pregnant can lead to a cancer diagnosis. However, it is not known whether this production is a contributing cause or an effect of tumorigenesis. The pituitary analogue of hCG, known as luteinizing hormone (LH), is produced in the pituitary gland of males and females of all ages.

HCG is clinically used to induce ovulation and treat ovarian disorders in women, as well stimulate the testes hypogonadal (underproduction of testosterone) men. It is also used in the treatment of undescended testicles in young males called hypogonadism. HCG in males is similar to LH, because they are similar and LH binds to receptors on Leydig cells stimulating synthesis and secretion of testosterone, the use of HCG is an added bonus to steroid users even if there is a lack of endogenous LH. Since HCG increases the body’s natural testosterone levels, its use during long or extremely high dosed cycles can be most beneficial were the effects on the hypothalamus causes a depressed signal to the testicles. The result of the depressed signal leads to what is known as testicular atrophy (shrunken nuts). The use of HCG will send an artificial signal to the testes (again, as if it were actually LH), thus preventing (to some degree) atrophy. It not only helps to maintain testicular size and condition but it will also help in restoring testicles back to their original size. Restarting natural testosterone production as quickly as possible is extremely important in regulating our hormones back to its normal balanced level.

Now how to dose it….

Any more than 500IU of HCG per day cause too much estrogen aromatase activity. There is a theoretical belief that aromatase is actually toxic the Leydig cells of testes. Understand you are inducing primary hypogonadism (permanent) and treating steroid-induced secondary (hypogonadotrophic) hypogonadism (temporary).

250IU or 500IU on two days each week while on cycle is the usual dose to combat testicular atrophy, if it isn’t enough then use it more days each week at the same dosage rather than raising it because of the aromatase activity involved with doses over 500IU. Usually you start the HCG 2 weeks after you start your cycle and you can start it at the mid-point of your cycle until you finish. I always say let your body be the judge. You know your jewels better than anyone. If there is significant shrinkage compared to your usual, then its obvious.

At the end of the cycle after one week you can stop and the next week start you PCT
If you decide to use HCG in your PCT it is the same dosage of 250IU or 500IU for 10 – 14 days and stop. The testosterone production it induces will cause issues with recovery because it will continue to suppress the Hypothalamic Pituitary Testicular Axis (HPTA). This is where the standard PCT picks up and finishes the job making your cycle successful and complete.

Dosages for mixing:

Bacteriostatic Water for dilution is used.

5000IU/10ML mixed HCG is dosed as so below. Same thing if it’s a 10000IU/20ml mixed vial

250IU is 0.5cc in the syringe (50 units in a insulin syringe)

500IU is 1cc in the syringe (100units in a insulin syringe)

My goal is to educate the community so that we have abetter understanding of what things are and how they benefit. As always its your forum so you input is always welcome. Thanks for reading

 

[Schrapnel85]

@TrouDuQ really good info there thanks for bringing it up.
Personally I wouldn't do pct without hcg just my opinion. Good luck with your route though wish you a quick recovery.

 

[TrouDuQ]

@TrouDuQ really good info there thanks for bringing it up.
Personally I wouldn't do pct without hcg just my opinion. Good luck with your route though wish you a quick recovery.

Thank you so much bro either way I will do a cycle log to make everyone updated.

 

[TrouDuQ]

I got all my stuff yesterday and going to start today my cycle.

I will let you know how pussy i am when i am going to inject lol.