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brutus79

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looking for a little feedback on a second cycle. a little history-
34 years old, 6'2'' 262lbs 14% bf (I think. stupid fucking meter gives a diff result every time) working out 3 years.
6 months ago I ran 800 test 600 deca. pw for 14 weeks. went from 239 to 272. pct was hcg 1000 iu pw last 4 weeks pinning (stopped deca at 10 weeks) clomid and nov at 21 days after last pin. kept strength gains but dropped to 261 during pct which I suspect was mostly water. very satisfied with 22 lbs that stuck.
I am now looking to run tren. based on the reading I have done I was thinking of running 600 test, 400 tren e, 300 deca (just for joints) and 200 mast per week for the anti aromatising properties it has. I was also going to run exemestane low dose for the duration with similar pct. I know deca runs counter to tren and mast but it reeeeeaaaaally helps my joint pain and allows me to kill it in the gym.
thoughts on mix? dosages?
 
IMO I think that's a little much for a second cycle. Deca and tren in the same cycle could give you some prolactin related problems. Choose one or the other. Then again this is
 
I appreciate it for sure! hard to decide with so many tasty options, yet I felt I was overloading a bit... is there anything good for joint pain other than deca that might mix better?
 
SerraJitsu2402 said:
IMO I think that's a little much for a second cycle. Deca and tren in the same cycle could give you some prolactin related problems. Choose one or the other. Then again this is
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I agree with this... It seems like it's a bit excessive for just being your second cycle man. It looks like you got pretty good results on just test and deca, I really don't see the need to add more compounds and complicate things. What are your goals on this cycle?
My way of thinking is, if I'm still getting good results with just test and another aas I don't see a reason to add more gear and complicate things. That's just me man, at the end of the day it's your body and you should run the cycle the way you want to.
 
I was hoping to lose some fat and gain some energy on top of what I experienced last time- tren seemed the logical choice. I read that masteron would help block estrogen- figured anything that helped me from growing a pair of tits was fine by me...
I am convinced to separate them now. I will do the 800 test 600 deca like last time- another 25 lbs of muscle will be welcomed with open arms- point taken. I have a few hundred dbol coming in from naps with a package deal I ordered (if it ever comes in- got my biologic order that I paid for 2 weeks after naps already)... would that be something to add a kick with less chance of problems do you guys think?
 
I think EQ is good for joints as well. You might see some bloat with that much deca. Is stick with 600mg test and 300mg deca. If you factor in the dbol you'll easily hit 25lbs.

Sometimes more isn't always better.
 
financially and physically as it were.

sounds like a plan- ill do a tren/test/mast next cycle to help de blubber after two mass stacks. I just started deadlifting and squatting heavy and have been dreaming of deca relief for now
 
Test deca and dbol is considered one of the best bulking cycles. I'm sure you'll be plenty happy with that stack.
 
decision made thanks to good advice on meso- been pinning 250 test sust 3 x a week for three weeks now. after talking to serra and bstretch I decided to do deca and dbol add on. pinned 600 deca and will do 300 next pin in 3 days to frontload.. then it will be 150 deca twice a week and test 300 cyp/prop biologic blend twice wwwkly for the suggested 300/600 mix. dbol will be weeks 8-12 to give me a kick towards the end of the cycle. dropping deca at week ten and pinning straight prop at that point so the last 6 weeks will allow all other esters to clear. tren/mast/test next cycle. in my third week of test today after warm up sets I squatted 315 five sets of five and deadlifted 315 five sets of five. definitely more reps than usual. nice. thanks you guys!
 
brutus79 said:
decision made thanks to good advice on meso- been pinning 250 test sust 3 x a week for three weeks now. after talking to serra and bstretch I decided to do deca and dbol add on. pinned 600 deca and will do 300 next pin in 3 days to frontload.. then it will be 150 deca twice a week and test 300 cyp/prop biologic blend twice wwwkly for the suggested 300/600 mix. dbol will be weeks 8-12 to give me a kick towards the end of the cycle. dropping deca at week ten and pinning straight prop at that point so the last 6 weeks will allow all other esters to clear. tren/mast/test next cycle. in my third week of test today after warm up sets I squatted 315 five sets of five and deadlifted 315 five sets of five. definitely more reps than usual. nice. thanks you guys!
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Look up how to deadlift by strength camp on YouTube if you can squat 315 for 5x5 IMO you should be hitting 345 for 5x5 but if you just started dead lifting recently this may not be the case.
 
ill check them out when I get home- been dlift and squat less than 2 months. straight isolation exercises until lately. I actually did 345 x 5 for 4 sets today.. I think I am suffering at the hands of some fake gp dbol.
 
dosages right now is 600 cyp and 200 prop (test) and 400 deca weekly. been taking 50 mg dbol daily and nothing after 7 days.
 
update- running test 800 wk, deca 300 masteron 400 wk. up 9 pounds to 266- bench at 350 squat 400 dead 450 (not 1rm but close)... shedding body fat like crazy. im sure I have put on more lean mass than the scale shows- feels great.

three words- german. volume. training. heard about it here and it has helped me turn a corner and start milking this cycle. I puke every. fucking. time. and limp around on rest days like I did after my first workouts. I heard about it in the cycle logs and for that I say thank you meso.
 
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