Second cycle thoughts / advice (test, primo, dbol)

[Eweaps]

what’s up yall I’m starting my second cycle and I just wanted some general thoughts on it

I’m starting up the bulk again I’m doing
250 test E split twice a week
100mg of primo split twice a week
25 mg of dbol a day
10mgs of cialis for blood pressure a day
.5 arimidex a week to start
And hcg 300 ius 3 times a week

I’m about a week in and I’m feeling generally good so far I can definitely notice the joint Lubrication from the dbol .

Just wanted to know general thoughts concerns or should I throw in another bulking ped. I understand dbol is hepatoxic so I’m only running it about 4 weeks

 

[HeatherSwanson]

I never saw you utility with running HCG during cycle, I might be out of the loop with new research / updated experiences. Has it been shown to stop the natty T suppression?
I run primo and test 1:1 but that's just me.

What's your diet going to be like for the bulk, macros and meal split?
How much are you looking to gain?

Is the Cialis for Ms. Eweaps as well? Or just the BP, don't lie

 

[Eweaps]

It generally just helps with testicular atrophy and keeping them from being suppressed while running exogenous testosterone.

I was thinking of upping the primo but 1) it is my first time running the compound so I wanted to see how I reacted to a low dose
2) also kinda expensive not trying to burn through too much if I can get similar effectiveness off the lower dose

I’m looking to gain about 20/30 pounds in a 12 week period .

Right now I’m eating about 4 times a day . Targeting about 3500 calories that always seems to be the sweet spot for me .

I’ve always just done 40/40/20 on my macros (protein , carbs , and fat respectively)

and hey it’s for the blood pressure but ms. Eweaps doesn’t mind the side effects

 

[HeatherSwanson]

I will run next cycle to give a try!

Good reasons for the primo ratio, its a fantastic compound hopefully you'll love it.

There was a guy yesterday you can see in my post history was having a really hard time at 3000 with a much higher doses of dbol and test. Might have to up that depending on height, weight, BF ect.

As far as your question with another PED, I've had great results with almost identical cycles in the past. I'm a less is more guy. With great macro discipline and training habits you can get so much further than a guy blasting a double dose with shitty food, terrible sleep and lack luster training.

Best of luck bro!

 

[NattyJuicer]

what’s up yall I’m starting my second cycle and I just wanted some general thoughts on it

I’m starting up the bulk again I’m doing
250 test E split twice a week
100mg of primo split twice a week
25 mg of dbol a day
10mgs of cialis for blood pressure a day
.5 arimidex a week to start
And hcg 300 ius 3 times a week

I’m about a week in and I’m feeling generally good so far I can definitely notice the joint Lubrication from the dbol .

Just wanted to know general thoughts concerns or should I throw in another bulking ped. I understand dbol is hepatoxic so I’m only running it about 4 weeks

I think DBOL is a suboptimal tissue builder excluding the bloat, and i would rather go with more injectables... ofc the pumps with dbol are awesome but the gains arent permanent. But at least you are controlling your e2... even tho dbol aromatisis into methyl estradiol

 

[Eweaps]

I was only front loading dbol plus yea the pumps are pretty sick I have to use taurine to curb it a bit . I’m at the end of the 4 weeks I wanna switch it out for another injectable but I’m not sure which . Don’t like deca and eq.

 

[NattyJuicer]

I was only front loading dbol plus yea the pumps are pretty sick I have to use taurine to curb it a bit . I’m at the end of the 4 weeks I wanna switch it out for another injectable but I’m not sure which . Don’t like deca and eq.

Front loading the DBOL is surely fuckin classic xD but jokes aside its a stupid idea tho, just wait for the injectables to reach steady state concentrations.

 

[NattyJuicer]

Front loading the DBOL is surely fuckin classic xD but jokes aside its a stupid idea tho, just wait for the injectables to reach steady state concentrations.

If you like orals you could go with anavar, thats suitable option,gives you very good mind muscle connection and is dry. No crazy bp spikes like dbol and it doesnt aromatise

 

[NattyJuicer]

I was only front loading dbol plus yea the pumps are pretty sick I have to use taurine to curb it a bit . I’m at the end of the 4 weeks I wanna switch it out for another injectable but I’m not sure which . Don’t like deca and eq.

It depends on what you want... do you want to use ''dry'' or wet compounds.. everybody has their own prefference. You want to look lean and hard or full and round... I would just stick to what you already run, just increase the doses aka more test more primo...

 

[marsupial]

Hey OP. Any update re cycle with primo and dbol? Did you titrate the primo upward to match the test? Tbh I’d hope that you just stuck to the primo and test after dropping the dbol, because you’d need to figure out what side effects are due to the primo. Putting var or mast in the pic would likely complicate things

 

[Eweaps]

My bad yall never checked in with the update .

I’ve dropped off the Dbol was on it for about a little under two months and it was decent although lower back pumps were a little annoying but manageable with some taurine .
Had little to no sides other than some slight bicep cramps and slight acne but that was expected with the dbol

. I’m on a near 1:1 ratio. With primo and test . 350 test / 300 primo and did that for about 2 alone

Now I have effectively introduced NPP into the equation about a couple days ago . With 100mg a week starting off then I’ll go up from there . I probably won’t push it past 200mgs
I’m also not gonna increase the test / primo I like the dosages I’m on now and would even lower it slightly depending how I respond to npp.

I’ve done mast and respond to it really well but it crashes my e2 . Primo for some reason doesn’t kill it as much and I don’t need to run a higher dose of arimidex I usually like to keep my serms low as I can ..

 

[Eweaps]

Oh also before introducing the dbol and this post I was on the cycle from the original post for about a month .

 

[UnaliveTrudeau69]

what’s up yall I’m starting my second cycle and I just wanted some general thoughts on it

I’m starting up the bulk again I’m doing
250 test E split twice a week
100mg of primo split twice a week
25 mg of dbol a day
10mgs of cialis for blood pressure a day
.5 arimidex a week to start
And hcg 300 ius 3 times a week

I’m about a week in and I’m feeling generally good so far I can definitely notice the joint Lubrication from the dbol .

Just wanted to know general thoughts concerns or should I throw in another bulking ped. I understand dbol is hepatoxic so I’m only running it about 4 weeks

Did you find that dose of HCG to be effective? Gonna be starting my third cycle soon and was thinking of adding it in for the same reason.