georgehe
New Member
Hi fellas,
I'm getting knowledge and thinking about my next cycle, my goal is UPGRADE MY PHYSIQUE not only put on size and weight and get stronger while Im on.
I've done only 2 cycles, I will tell you my opinion about them if that'd be helpful to you guys.
FIRST CYCLE was test e and tbol and the third month i was like wtf and I used tren ace 300mg a week and 200mg of prop and that was dope and tbol was good too, 500mg of test by itself simply didnt surprised me at all.
2 months after pct i lost most of my gains, so probably tren gave me the best I could ask but also the biggest step to get off from Idk, I loved it but I'd like something more sustainable.
SECOND CYCLE was 500mg EW of npp and 200EW of test prop for 8 weeks, used anavar 60mg from week 5 to 10 before pct. Loved it and gained 20lbs, problem is that once i dropped npp and got rid of extra fat i bulk I lost 10 lbs, once I was off i lost another 5lbs. I'm not sure but I think that the only gains I still have are from anavar, npp was awesome shit but I dont think i retained muscle from it.
Now my diet is clean and I check my macros, I've been lifting for 7 years and started steroids one year ago, Im 24, 6.3ft, 220lbs, when I started to work out I had no muscle to actually stress during workout so it was very frustrating being 150lbs 6.3ft, ive gained weight slowly during the years, learning always more.
Now coming done with the bullshit, lets get into the topic, I know short cycles are easy to recover so they supposed to be better to keep gains vs long cycles that are harder to recover but seems to give anyway more gains due to the time that the body have to adapt to the new weight, this is the first thing I'd like an opinion on!
Then about compounds, I had many ideas, based on the short cycle theory I'd go with tren ace, tbol and test prop for 6 weeks blast; the other alternative is a longer one, I'd like to try boldenone because it seems to be more realistic in the long term and many claim is a deca without water, plus i have the cyp version so 12 weeks would be cool.
So the ideas of a 12 cycle are these:
-test e 300EW/ bold cyp1000EW/ anavar or tbol as kickstarter
-same as above but instead of 1g bold, i'd go with 600EW plus 800EW of primo
-other idea are combining boldenone with 300mg a week of tren e or deca to maximize gainz, maybe still keeping the primo if is worth it.
I don't mind to use heaps of different gear at the same time as long as they are worth to stack, also I can make higher concentrations using EO and make primo and boldenone at 400/ml.
If you skip the message, I dont care about size, or get ready for summer or these kind of things, I like to be in shape all the time and I want to cycle steroids to help the balance and constant improvements.
I aim to gain 20lbs, I would like to use hgh not rich enough yet so I'm ready to invest in primobolan instead of peptides for this one, I can also use insulin, I used it for a couple of weeks last cycle but I'm not sure I put on muscle too or only fat on it lol, at least I tried it and I know how it works.
Cheers guys and please if you want to make useless critics please dont, if you want to make constructive critiques and tell me about what worked the best for you in this case you are welcome to criticize me as much as you want, I here to learn not to waste time reading stupid comments.
cheers
I'm getting knowledge and thinking about my next cycle, my goal is UPGRADE MY PHYSIQUE not only put on size and weight and get stronger while Im on.
I've done only 2 cycles, I will tell you my opinion about them if that'd be helpful to you guys.
FIRST CYCLE was test e and tbol and the third month i was like wtf and I used tren ace 300mg a week and 200mg of prop and that was dope and tbol was good too, 500mg of test by itself simply didnt surprised me at all.
2 months after pct i lost most of my gains, so probably tren gave me the best I could ask but also the biggest step to get off from Idk, I loved it but I'd like something more sustainable.
SECOND CYCLE was 500mg EW of npp and 200EW of test prop for 8 weeks, used anavar 60mg from week 5 to 10 before pct. Loved it and gained 20lbs, problem is that once i dropped npp and got rid of extra fat i bulk I lost 10 lbs, once I was off i lost another 5lbs. I'm not sure but I think that the only gains I still have are from anavar, npp was awesome shit but I dont think i retained muscle from it.
Now my diet is clean and I check my macros, I've been lifting for 7 years and started steroids one year ago, Im 24, 6.3ft, 220lbs, when I started to work out I had no muscle to actually stress during workout so it was very frustrating being 150lbs 6.3ft, ive gained weight slowly during the years, learning always more.
Now coming done with the bullshit, lets get into the topic, I know short cycles are easy to recover so they supposed to be better to keep gains vs long cycles that are harder to recover but seems to give anyway more gains due to the time that the body have to adapt to the new weight, this is the first thing I'd like an opinion on!
Then about compounds, I had many ideas, based on the short cycle theory I'd go with tren ace, tbol and test prop for 6 weeks blast; the other alternative is a longer one, I'd like to try boldenone because it seems to be more realistic in the long term and many claim is a deca without water, plus i have the cyp version so 12 weeks would be cool.
So the ideas of a 12 cycle are these:
-test e 300EW/ bold cyp1000EW/ anavar or tbol as kickstarter
-same as above but instead of 1g bold, i'd go with 600EW plus 800EW of primo
-other idea are combining boldenone with 300mg a week of tren e or deca to maximize gainz, maybe still keeping the primo if is worth it.
I don't mind to use heaps of different gear at the same time as long as they are worth to stack, also I can make higher concentrations using EO and make primo and boldenone at 400/ml.
If you skip the message, I dont care about size, or get ready for summer or these kind of things, I like to be in shape all the time and I want to cycle steroids to help the balance and constant improvements.
I aim to gain 20lbs, I would like to use hgh not rich enough yet so I'm ready to invest in primobolan instead of peptides for this one, I can also use insulin, I used it for a couple of weeks last cycle but I'm not sure I put on muscle too or only fat on it lol, at least I tried it and I know how it works.
Cheers guys and please if you want to make useless critics please dont, if you want to make constructive critiques and tell me about what worked the best for you in this case you are welcome to criticize me as much as you want, I here to learn not to waste time reading stupid comments.
cheers
