Should I try test?

[monster8912]

Brother youre benching 55kg. Test isnt your solution

 

[thejumpingsheep]

Younger means he needs more iu to cover his igf1 dipshit.

That's why your ancient ass can get away with 2 iu

What? No bud this is wrong. You dont know how he will react to 2iu. Thats the mistake.

Also IGF and HGH drop as you age. I seriously doubt sensitivity increases. I have no idea what you are talking about. Plenty of older guys take big doses and have lower IGF than I do at 2iu.

 

[Mongo966]

Lol wtf kind of advice is this? Abs are quite literally made via diet. They don't just show up one day after eating carelessly.

reading and comprehension skills are off the fuckin charts with this one.
A round of applause is in order.

i'm telling him to build muscle and worry about definition later. At no point did I tell him to eat carelessly.

 

[shredded.lyfe]

Lol wtf kind of advice is this? Abs are quite literally made via diet. They don't just show up one day after eating carelessly.

I thought that was an odd comment too

 

[Billbo98]

Younger means he needs more iu to cover his igf1 dipshit.

That's why your ancient ass can get away with 2 iu

No dummy it 100% does not. Stop talking out of your bunghole man. Also GH for a dude that’s not on Test is a gigantic waste of money especially the Pharma hes running. In my 30s 2iu put me in high 300s igf1. Not everyone responds the same. Stop quoting gay shitfluencers on instagram saying x amount of iu is the proper dose. GTFO here

 

[riggspersonal]

Younger means he needs more iu to cover his igf1 dipshit.

That's why your ancient ass can get away with 2 iu

Gonna give an asshole response and then apologize afterwards.

You're just plain wrong. Don't go around giving harmful advice when you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Everyone reacts differently to HGH dosing. Subject A 33/m/200lbs/6ft/15% BF and subject B 33/m/200lbs/6ft/15% BF taking 2iu of HGH can have significantly different impacts on IGF-1 levels. The biochemical response can vary significantly. For some, this can put there z-scores in acromelagy territory.

The most significant driver of this variability is genetics. The Growth Hormone Receptor (GHR) gene has a common polymorphism involving the deletion of exon 3 (d3).

Individuals can carry a full-length receptor gene (fl/fl), be heterozygous for the deletion (fl/d3), or be homozygous for the deletion (d3/d3).

Research consistently shows that individuals with the d3/d3 genotype have a heightened receptor sensitivity to GH and will generate a significantly higher IGF-1 response to the exact same dose of exogenous HGH compared to those with the fl/fl genotype.

Source: https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/100/6/E919/2829723?login=false

Anyways, sorry.

 

[riggspersonal]

Younger means he needs more iu to cover his igf1 dipshit.

That's why your ancient ass can get away with 2 iu

You're just plain wrong. Don't go around giving harmful advice when you have no idea you're talking about. Everyone reacts differently to HGH dosing. Subject A 33/m/200lbs/6ft/15% BF and subject B 33/m/200lbs/6ft/15% BF taking 2iu of HGH can have significantly different impacts on IGF-1 levels. The biochemical response can vary significantly. For some, this can put their z-scores in acromelagy territory.

The most significant driver of this variability is genetics. The Growth Hormone Receptor (GHR) gene has a common polymorphism involving the deletion of exon 3 (d3).

Individuals can carry a full-length receptor gene (fl/fl), be heterozygous for the deletion (fl/d3), or be homozygous for the deletion (d3/d3).

Research consistently shows that individuals with the d3/d3 genotype have a heightened receptor sensitivity to GH and will generate a significantly higher IGF-1 response to the exact same dose of exogenous HGH compared to those with the fl/fl genotype.

Source: https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/100/6/E919/2829723?login=false

 

[Elektrobot]

I still have belly I am not shredded

Sometimes the reason you aren't feeling well is obvious once you type it out for yourself

You are overweight but are trying to convince yourself not abusing testosterone is what's holding you back from feeling your best?

Lose the weight

Fix your training

Learn nutrition

Do the obvious things

Don't look for an injection to fix things that you refuse to fix for yourself

Because it wont

Training knowledge and maturity, an understanding of sports nutrition, adhering to a well designed food plan, discipline, hard work, consistency... these are the things that will change how you feel. And you can't inject any of them.

 

[Elektrobot]

Younger means he needs more iu to cover his igf1 dipshit.

That's why your ancient ass can get away with 2 iu

GH and IGF levels are not directly or linearly correlated

Some people go from 100's to 300's on 2iu's (me), and some can't get above 100's on 6iu

Thats why you have to test natty, then test as you increase your dose. You can't guess at GH

 

[Mongo966]

I thought that was an odd comment too

Yeah I guess I could have worded that one a little better now that I look at it.
It didn't seem too bad at all before I had my nap.
My bad.