Side effects from recent batch of SSA GH?

[dinfar1337]

Besides possibly this one what other complaints has their hgh gotten recently? I haven't kept up with them lately.

I did get 2 24iu kits from them recently and just started using theirs last week. So I haven't been using it for too long but so far can't say I've noticed anything bad about it.

theres a 0.01% chance im wrong. but ssa is way bigger. have a way bigger reach to stupid people. i wouldn't take the reports seriously if they werent from a member in here which has shown they have braincells. neither would i if stuff came around lobster but everyone in here has no issue with it.

just how i review stuff meso is the way to go. and im feeling very great on ssa hgh

 

[BP_6]

BP is not that high, 133/88- nothing to write home about. Morning BG is 87, also pretty good. He lowered his dose to 6 iu after some people said it's not good to raise your dose that high- and he stopped the SSA gh. The only way I can be positive is if I tested it, but it said 10 iu on the box. Would like to test but it's $400 - more than the cost of the GH itself.

If it comes to it I'm not against testing it, because we do need to get to the bottom of why he still feels like shit even after stopping the SSA GH immediately after feeling bad. There are other factors as well that aren't GH related that could be contributing to what's going on (ie, the oral steroids he was on as well as the injectables- even though he says he's done all of these at higher doses with no issues so he's not certain it could be due to that). He just thought it was the GH because it started happening shortly after he started it.

We're eliminating things one by one trying to get to the bottom of things.

Depending on how bad he feels, he could always go to the Dr and get some bloodwork done. It is very unlikely it is the HGH and more likely just concidence, but it sounds like you are doing the right thing.

 

[NewGirl10425]

Just wanted to follow up here for anyone else wondering. My partner is feeling much better, so his symptoms were likely not from the GH- it was just coincidentally around the time he started to do the GH. It might have been compounded with effects from other stuff he was taking and was likely bogged down from doing 3 different orals. He's since stopped the orals, and now he's back up to 10 iu GH (smh). But I don't think there's anything toxic from the GH itself so I just want to clarify that!

 

[dinfar1337]

Just wanted to follow up here for anyone else wondering. My partner is feeling much better, so his symptoms were likely not from the GH- it was just coincidentally around the time he started to do the GH. It might have been compounded with effects from other stuff he was taking and was likely bogged down from doing 3 different orals. He's since stopped the orals, and now he's back up to 10 iu GH (smh). But I don't think there's anything toxic from the GH itself so I just want to clarify that!

theres a 0.01% chance im wrong. but ssa is way bigger. have a way bigger reach to stupid people. i wouldn't take the reports seriously if they werent from a member in here which has shown they have braincells.

surprise

 

[Ateam2023]

Just wanted to follow up here for anyone else wondering. My partner is feeling much better, so his symptoms were likely not from the GH- it was just coincidentally around the time he started to do the GH. It might have been compounded with effects from other stuff he was taking and was likely bogged down from doing 3 different orals. He's since stopped the orals, and now he's back up to 10 iu GH (smh). But I don't think there's anything toxic from the GH itself so I just want to clarify that!

smh

 

[TheDieselZ]

Just wanted to follow up here for anyone else wondering. My partner is feeling much better, so his symptoms were likely not from the GH- it was just coincidentally around the time he started to do the GH. It might have been compounded with effects from other stuff he was taking and was likely bogged down from doing 3 different orals. He's since stopped the orals, and now he's back up to 10 iu GH (smh). But I don't think there's anything toxic from the GH itself so I just want to clarify that!

Stacking 3 orals would make most people feel like hell.

 

[CarvinDC125]

Can’t speak for the 10iu but the 24iu is excellent

That’s good. 24iu with green tops just came in this week from ssa. I Will be using it in the next month or so when my current batch runs out.

 

[CarvinDC125]

Just wanted to follow up here for anyone else wondering. My partner is feeling much better, so his symptoms were likely not from the GH- it was just coincidentally around the time he started to do the GH. It might have been compounded with effects from other stuff he was taking and was likely bogged down from doing 3 different orals. He's since stopped the orals, and now he's back up to 10 iu GH (smh). But I don't think there's anything toxic from the GH itself so I just want to clarify that!

3 orals??? Why lol. Is their liver/kidneys ok?

 

[Mariafitness]

Besides possibly this one what other complaints has their hgh gotten recently? I haven't kept up with them lately.

I did get 2 24iu kits from them recently and just started using theirs last week. So I haven't been using it for too long but so far can't say I've noticed anything bad about it.

Update?

 

[Uncle Bub]

Update?

I'm almost thru one of the 24iu kits. No issues for me.

 

[Rbvasques]

Interesting enough, ive been using hgh from lobster the last 8 months, from 4 to 8IU.
I got some SSA hgh and decided to give it a try, same dosage, around 8IU, having severe carpal tunnel.

 

[Benf15harp]

Interesting enough, ive been using hgh from lobster the last 8 months, from 4 to 8IU.
I got some SSA hgh and decided to give it a try, same dosage, around 8IU, having severe carpal tunnel.

Probably because SSA is overdosed at a higher clip

 

[Ghoul]

Probably because SSA is overdosed at a higher clip

Could be, or more active rHGH at the same dose.

It's good to remember impurities don't cause rHGH sides. Properly FUNCTIONING rHGH causes rHGH sides.

 

[Rbvasques]

Im not that smart to understand why, i have probably 15 more kits or lobster and 10 more kits os ssa.
The lobster is 10iu tested 11iu 97%
SSA is 15IU tested 18IU 96%

(And yes, i do fill SSA with 1.5ml bac water to easy on my math)

 

[Benf15harp]

Im not that smart to understand why, i have probably 15 more kits or lobster and 10 more kits os ssa.
The lobster is 10iu tested 11iu 97%
SSA is 15IU tested 18IU 96%

(And yes, i do fill SSA with 1.5ml bac water to easy on my math)

Ok, so lobster 10% OD
SSA 20% OD
So try reducing SSA 8ius to 7.2ius
Also add 1.8ml instead of 1.5
See if that helps

 

[Ghoul]

Im not that smart to understand why, i have probably 15 more kits or lobster and 10 more kits os ssa.
The lobster is 10iu tested 11iu 97%
SSA is 15IU tested 18IU 96%

(And yes, i do fill SSA with 1.5ml bac water to easy on my math)

It's not you, I think a lot, if not most people associate side effects with lower quality. It seems reasonable, until you consider these are exactly the same effects common in patients treated with pharma.

Even Jano speculated it came down to dosing differences, not "impurities", which is sensible.

The medical literature links rHGH sides to 2 factors.

One is the dose, obviously. The higher the iu, the higher the rate of sides goes, always.
The same sides we experience using ugl rHGH are experienced in controlled pharma studies and observed in patients.

So a vial that you don't realize is overdosed could cause it. Just because one vial tested at 31iu, doesn't mean the next isn't 37iu, 20% higher.

The next factor is speed of absorption. The faster the spike in GH, the higher it goes, and the more sides are reported. Higher dilution lowers this spike. So if you can dilute more, making the volume larger, it may help.



Finally, a certain amount of rHGH is not folded properly, and because of that those molecules don't work. This applies to pharma and UGL. The thing is, improperly folded rHGH will count as "pure", because the testing we use can't check for proper folding.

If one batch has 95% properly folded, active rHGH and another is 86% properly folded, they could show identical 97% purity, but at exactly the same dose, the one with more active rHGH is more potent and could cause sides while the one with less active rHGH feels "cleaner".

So there you've got the various possibilities accounting for differences in sides between batches.

It sounds reasonable on the surface, but "impurities" have never been linked to rHGH sides.(they can cause other problems, but that's another subject).

 

[dinfar1337]

Im not that smart to understand why, i have probably 15 more kits or lobster and 10 more kits os ssa.
The lobster is 10iu tested 11iu 97%
SSA is 15IU tested 18IU 96%

(And yes, i do fill SSA with 1.5ml bac water to easy on my math)

lets not forget jano states he has a 5% margin of error on hgh.

18 iu could very well be 18,9 iu
and anything above 95% is basically considered 99-100% hgh or 90% hgh lol.
clearly ssa has the stronger product tho so i wouldn't really delve into 96% or 97% tests just go for feels. i would buy ssa and lower ur dosage to save money

 

[eryximachus]

Even Jano speculated it came down to dosing differences, not "impurities", which is sensible.

This is not true. He has said that it is mostly due to dimer. This is why he tests for it optionally. More dimer = more side effects.

 

[Ghoul]

This is not true. He has said that it is mostly due to dimer. This is why he tests for it optionally. More dimer = more side effects.

I've read his comment about mismeasured vials causing inadvertent high doses being his theory of sides effect differences between brands, but
can't find it atm. If you know where his comment on dimer causing it I'd be interested in reading what he has to say.

There is absolutely no evidence, or even a theory, of dimer causing side effects.

High GH levels, whether injected or from a pituitary tumor produce exactly the same side effects.

The odds some impurity, dimer or anything else would cause side effects that exactly match the effects of high GH levels are vanishingly low.

The only thing dimer (2 rHGH monomers stuck together as an aggregate) have been demonstrated do is 1) Just not work (most likely, because it can't attach to the GH receptor) or 2) attach weakly and not work as long as rHGH should.

The bigger problem with dimer is it can act as a "seed" to grow large aggregates, which wastes rHGH and potentially causes other health effects.

 

[Psy-chonaut]

I've read his comment about mismeasured vials causing inadvertent high doses being his theory of sides effect differences between brands, but
can't find it atm. If you know where his comment on dimer causing it I'd be interested in reading what he has to say.

There is absolutely no evidence, or even a theory, of dimer causing side effects.

High GH levels, whether injected or from a pituitary tumor produce exactly the same side effects.

The odds some impurity, dimer or anything else would cause side effects that exactly match the effects of high GH levels are vanishingly low.

The only thing dimer (2 rHGH monomers stuck together as an aggregate) have been demonstrated do is 1) Just not work (most likely, because it can't attach to the GH receptor) or 2) attach weakly and not work as long as rHGH should.

The bigger problem with dimer is it can act as a "seed" to grow large aggregates, which wastes rHGH and potentially causes other health effects.

Do you remember how much 'Dimer' pharma allows?
-Think I fell over something as high as 4% - But maybe I remember incorrectly