side effects of a tren + prop cycle

[DJ Chico]

i am considering a 4 week cycle of test prop (100mgs) and tren ace. (75 mgs) each EOD. i kno about the sides of test but what kind of sides can i expect from the tren (besides acne). I heard alot about it messing with your sleep cycle, (would sleeping pills or tylenol pm's help, and does it effect every1s sleep cycle), ill b on armidex n have nolv on hand so gyno wont b a problem.

any help/advice will b much appretiated
thanks fellaz

 

[deadguy]

i am considering a 4 week cycle of test prop (100mgs) and tren ace. (75 mgs) each EOD. i kno about the sides of test but what kind of sides can i expect from the tren (besides acne). I heard alot about it messing with your sleep cycle, (would sleeping pills or tylenol pm's help, and does it effect every1s sleep cycle), ill b on armidex n have nolv on hand so gyno wont b a problem.

any help/advice will b much appretiated
thanks fellaz

The sleep apnea will happen in most people. Tylenol PM works great for that. Night sweats are common. Acne..depends on the person. My advice..4 week cycle, you should do the injections everyday depending on howe much gear you have.

 

[Fronkthis]

there is nothing wrong with a 4 week cycle. Hit harder though then get out.
do 100mg prop, 75mg tren ED.

as far as sleep goes, its night sweats, and insomnia. It is 100% not sleep apnea, sleep apnea occurs mostly in obese people and its when your body weight is too heavy for your lungs, so when you sleep it fucks up your breathing.

for me the worst side, is aggression, you will be a mean impatieant mofo...

 

[DJ Chico]

well itll b my first cycle i though the total dosages of at least 400 mgs test a week (i will shoot more than a cc more like 1 1/3ml of prop) and 75 mgs of tren eod would b good, with a good bulk diet n training hard would 12-15 pounds in 4 weeks be unheard of?

 

[Fronkthis]

depending on your stats, your workout history. I think 10lbs in a month is feasable if you got everything down correctly.

Lets hear your stats and I can answer better.

ED shots for tren is important if you want to avoid most of the sides.
PLus upping the test dose, will help your libido.

 

[DJ Chico]

5 years of training, 5-10 185lbs, very low bf + fast metabolism, and a very clean diet at the moment, when bulkin ill b taking in 500 grams of protein 4 - 5000 calories, want to get to 200 with this one, then 210 with another 4 weeker,

im thinking of takin the eod injections plus 25 mgs var

ima lil confused on y takin the tren everyday helps with sides, wouldnt a higher dosage produce more sides?

 

[lamb88ert]

if your gonna be eating 500 grams of protein a day youll definitally reach 200 pounds.....the only hardest part will be eatin all that f*ckin protein lol

 

[getswoll]

5 years of training, 5-10 185lbs, very low bf + fast metabolism, and a very clean diet at the moment, when bulkin ill b taking in 500 grams of protein 4 - 5000 calories, want to get to 200 with this one, then 210 with another 4 weeker,

im thinking of takin the eod injections plus 25 mgs var

ima lil confused on y takin the tren everyday helps with sides, wouldnt a higher dosage produce more sides?

Basically you spread the dosage out over the week instead of dumping it in every few days. I suppose that is what helps.

GS

 

[deadguy]

there is nothing wrong with a 4 week cycle. Hit harder though then get out.
do 100mg prop, 75mg tren ED.

as far as sleep goes, its night sweats, and insomnia. It is 100% not sleep apnea, sleep apnea occurs mostly in obese people and its when your body weight is too heavy for your lungs, so when you sleep it fucks up your breathing.

for me the worst side, is aggression, you will be a mean impatieant mofo...

ty for the correction in the terminology. I meant insomnia lol

 

[DJ Chico]

if your gonna be eating 500 grams of protein a day youll definitally reach 200 pounds.....the only hardest part will be eatin all that f*ckin protein lol

yea that parts harder than the training for the day, 3 weight gainers shakes, 4 meals, 2 Protein shakes an hour after meals, evens out to 9 meals, bt for one of the meals i just crack 10 egg whites and 3 yolks in a glass and pull a rocky.

 

[DJ Chico]

any1 kno the half-life of tren-acetate?

 

[DJ Chico]

any1 kno the half-life of tren-acetate?

never mind fellaz i did the research its 3 days

 

[Silverback]

Why the hell do you need 500 grams of protein???? You only weigh 185-- That is alot of work on you kidneys --- not to mention an excessive and wasteful amount of protein--

 

[Fronkthis]

Tren acetate has a half life of 3 days....
But is has an active life for about 36 hours hence the need for ED injections to provide a more stable plasma level.

when plasma levels jump around, so dont plasma levels of progesterone.
hence the more sides.

 

[4seasons]

4 weeks would be a waste, invest a few more $$$ and do 8 weeks!

 

[Fronkthis]

4 Seasons? why is 4 weeks a waste?
these are fast acting substances so effects will be seen after about 5 days.

Also your bodies own action/reaction factors kick in at about week 4, this is when estrogen and cortisol levels get extremely high. So in a sense 4 weeks is the best way to keep the muscle that is gained.

4 seasons I would recommend you buy Building the perfect Beast. then youll undersrtand why shorter cycles are better.

 

[Achilles83]

Is it me or does this guy sound very young and uninformed. How old are you DJ, just wondering??

 

[Achilles83]

4 Seasons? why is 4 weeks a waste?
these are fast acting substances so effects will be seen after about 5 days.

Also your bodies own action/reaction factors kick in at about week 4, this is when estrogen and cortisol levels get extremely high. So in a sense 4 weeks is the best way to keep the muscle that is gained.

4 seasons I would recommend you buy Building the perfect Beast. then youll undersrtand why shorter cycles are better.

Nothing wrong with short cycles, i personally would never go under 6 weeks though, seems like a waste to me. By 4 weeks he will be shut down anyhow. Also DJ is you go ahead with the Tren, you might want to get some dosinex, or bromo, and run that 1.25mg-2.5mg ed even after with pct. Make sure you ramp up though, or you will get sick. I take it before bed

 

[Fronkthis]

bromo or dostinex is not necessary for tren, if he is not sucseptable to prolactin related sides then he need not worry.
stick to b6 at 200mg ED
at 4 weeks your just beginning to be shut down... I know that 4 week cycle are better, but I cant do them, I need to see gains coming for at least two months.

trust me bro, stick to ED injects youll be much happier.

 

[test-one]

ill b on armidex n have nolv on hand so gyno wont b a problem.

any help/advice will b much appretiated
thanks fellaz[/QUOTE]

nolva and arim wont do anything for tren induced gyno .grab some bromo
rather safe than sorry