side effects of a tren + prop cycle

sev1512 said:
bromo or dostinex is not necessary for tren, if he is not sucseptable to prolactin related sides then he need not worry.
stick to b6 at 200mg ED
at 4 weeks your just beginning to be shut down... I know that 4 week cycle are better, but I cant do them, I need to see gains coming for at least two months.

trust me bro, stick to ED injects youll be much happier.

Agreed with the everyday injects. I anytime i run deca or tren have bromo on hand, and i usually run it at a low dose all thru the cycle into pct. I DONT WANT GYNO. Its always smart to have thing on hand, otherwise you'll be screwed JMO
 
shit, bromo will not help tren induced gyno....
tren induced gyno is from progesterone not prolactin.

bromo blocks prolactin, so unless your titties are milking you dont need bromo.

vitamin b6 at 200mg ED will help.
arimidex will help, becasue arimidex binds to the aromatase enzyme.
tren aromatizes to progesterone, which still needs aromatase enzyme to do. so if your taking arim, it will help prevent tren gyno.

if your really nervous about tren gyno, add some winny or vitex (chasteberry extract) I hear those can help
 
What can be done about fina gyno?
The progesterone related gyno can be cured most of the time with 1 gram of vitex taken every day until the gyno symptoms disappears. Bromocriptine at 2.5/day split 1.25 in the morning and in the evening will inhibit prolactin.
Bromocriptine is to prolactin as arimidex is to estrogen
http://www.rx2world.com/Bromocriptine.htm

and i found this
What can prevent progesterone gyno associated with fina?
Bromocriptine at 2.5/day split 1.25 in the morning and in the evening will inhibit prolactin. Bromocriptine is to prolactin as arimidex is to estrogen

A good link on fina/tren is www.basskilleronline.com
 
Achilles83 said:
What can be done about fina gyno?
The progesterone related gyno can be cured most of the time with 1 gram of vitex taken every day until the gyno symptoms disappears. Bromocriptine at 2.5/day split 1.25 in the morning and in the evening will inhibit prolactin.
Bromocriptine is to prolactin as arimidex is to estrogen
http://www.rx2world.com/Bromocriptine.htm

and i found this
What can prevent progesterone gyno associated with fina?
Bromocriptine at 2.5/day split 1.25 in the morning and in the evening will inhibit prolactin. Bromocriptine is to prolactin as arimidex is to estrogen

A good link on fina/tren is www.basskilleronline.com


good read. i did a tren only cycle a while back and the only thing that touched the gyno symtoms i was having was bromo. weather it was prolactin or progesterone i dont know my nips werent leaking or anything just the classic itch and tenderness. just my 2 bro
 
Have to add one thing. Acetate is a 2 Carbon ester. Propionate is 3 Carbon Ester. The half life of a Propionate ester, and this is from the most accurate and most reliable data out there, is about 2.5 days. Likewise, the half life of an acetate ester is approx. 1.5 days. I see the 3 day figure thrown out there all the time for acetate and that is just WRONG, period, case closed. The half life of acetate is approx 1.5 days For that reason, an acetate ester should be injected ED for optimal results. EOD is not good enough for an acetate ester, you need ED injections.
 
sev1512 said:
4 Seasons? why is 4 weeks a waste?
these are fast acting substances so effects will be seen after about 5 days.

Also your bodies own action/reaction factors kick in at about week 4, this is when estrogen and cortisol levels get extremely high. So in a sense 4 weeks is the best way to keep the muscle that is gained.

4 seasons I would recommend you buy Building the perfect Beast. then youll undersrtand why shorter cycles are better.

im on prop/tren right now and its just hitting me HARD 4 weeks in. i would recommend running it longer than just that. i felt strength gains after about a week but my body is really starting to change now and strength is tyhrough the roof. only side effects are agression. holy shit i have a short fuse.
 
aight fellaz its gona be 75 mgs prop daily and 50 mgs tren daily taken wit .3mg armidex daily, and .5 mgs dostinex E4D, 10 mgs nolv daily, wt would be the reccommended dosage for BROMO? and at the end of week 2 ill do sum hcg mid cycle to make pct easier n quicker
 
If ya add winnie in to that cycle you have my all time fave.

Tren,Winnie, and prop, make a mean lookin change in body comp and its great for severe dieting down while preserving mass.
 
i have dostinex that ill be taking .5mg E4D, 10mg nolv daily, and .33mgs of armidex and 2.5 mg finasteride daily, i have HCG that ill run the last week of cycle and the week after, and i got clomid n nolv for 3 weeks after last hcg shot. im thinkn of 75mgs prop and 50mgs tren daily, so it works out to a lil more than 500mgs test and 350mgs tren weekly

will the dostinex block progesterone or prolactin, i really dont care which it blocks as long as it prevents tren gyno?
 
DJ Chico said:
i have dostinex that ill be taking .5mg E4D, 10mg nolv daily, and .33mgs of armidex and 2.5 mg finasteride daily, i have HCG that ill run the last week of cycle and the week after, and i got clomid n nolv for 3 weeks after last hcg shot. im thinkn of 75mgs prop and 50mgs tren daily, so it works out to a lil more than 500mgs test and 350mgs tren weekly

will the dostinex block progesterone or prolactin, i really dont care which it blocks as long as it prevents tren gyno?

i did this and my cholesterol got all out of wack and stayed that way for some time post cycle. so look for that as one side. hdl's were very very low.
btw, are you sure youve exhausted all means of growth here? not a flame or nothin, but your 5'10". are you sure you cant get up to a 200-210 range before starting? i mean, i used to be 185 myself and was very lean. got up to 205 and was still lean, a little more fat, but still lean, then i began use of anabolics. i dont know if i believe in cutting yourself short by starting to soon, it doesnt make sense, but you can only do this for so long and there will come a time when the cycles add up and take a toll.
i know your minds made up and all just like the guy who was 155 and ready to start taking 150mg/d of drol last week. but im just sayin you can probably use very little for the time being and get up to a weight that would reflect that of someone who has hit it pretty hard and knows what their body needs, nutritional wise and what exercises work for you. dont be impatient...
 
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