Sobriety and steroids.

GAlax17

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Greetings.
So for starters, a little about me.
I’ve always loved lifting. Ever since I touched weights my freshman year of high school I was hooked. I lived for it. While some guys on sports teams used it to improve their performance on the field, I used sports to measure my performance in the weight room. I was addicted to lifting weights from 14 years old. Unfortunately I fell in with the wrong crowd later in high school. What once was a fun loving, outgoing kid who partied on weekends turned into a substance abusing prick. Casual drinking became binge drinking (not the good kind) I started doing blow and pain pills regularly.

I thought everyone was doing this.
I made it into a prestigious university in the south. But like my passion for weight lifting I began to explore a passion with drugs. Skip ahead a few months I ended up medical withdrawing from the school after one semester because I was unable to maintain the lifestyle I was living. I was drinking very heavily and taking oxycodone on a daily basis. At this time the one thing that gave me happiness (lifting) was completely out of my life. My long time girlfriend from high school died of cancer leaving me a huge cache of more drugs that slowly led to a breakdown. I ended up in the hospital after I overdosed on a handful of dilaudid I stole from her house after the funeral.

At this point I reached out to my parents to seek treatment. I attended an inpatient program for drug and alcohol addiction at a very young age. I was finally getting help I needed very desperately. I spent 3-4 days out of the week in the gym as we did not have much else to do other then watch tv, hang out with each other, read and sleek. It was like a plush jail cell. The kind you hear about the super wealthy do federal time in. Anyways 3 months passed by and I completed the program. I had my life back finally after years of going through the motion I was back to me. I gained a ton of weight from this experience (muscle and fat). I got back in to the gym and I can honestly say without my motivation to lift more weight and gain more muscle I would not have been able to stay sober. I actually got my one year chip 365 days after my first NA (narcotics anonymous) meeting. The weights were my saving grace along with the help from my family and friends. I met a new girl, got a decent job, and have been living life ever since. To this day I still have refrained from drinking, pills, powder, any narcotic substance (prescribed or not) I have completely left out of my life. I cannot be more thankful.

With that being said, I recently started a steroid cycle. Testosterone E 250mg/ml 2x a week. Anadrol 50 5x a week on training days. With so much time in sobriety under my belt it is natural for me to not even think about the right and wrong thing to do. I know I can’t drink, I have a problem with drinking. I know I can’t use painkillers, even when I had surgery I refrained from taking any sort of narcotic pain relief bc I know I can’t take it like a responsible adult. So anyways I started taking these injections and tonight I came to a brutal and honest conclusion: This is a relapse. To me a relapse is consuming any sort of substance for the purpose of mood altering. That’s what steroids are used for recreationally anyways, is to make you feel better about yourself. It was absolutely devastating realizing I threw away years worth of clean time but I will live. It doesn’t mean I’m going back to using drugs or alcohol, it was just a major disappointment that I got complacent with my recovery and confidence in my decision making.

I’m not asking for anything other then some support. If you have some words of encouragement or some advice with handing this situation they are appreciated, however if you are going to post something negative don’t waste your time. I don’t need some internet douche telling me I’m a failure or whatever. The truth hurts but I felt like I needed to tell anyone and I don’t know anyone on this forum IRL so I came here to get it out. I hope this is in the right sub forum. If anyone else is in recovery just know you aren’t alone, and if you need someone to speak to on this matter I am here.

Thanks again everyone.
 
Wow bro amazing story thank you for sharing! Congrats on your sobriety. My feelings about this is your are still sober. Steroids can alter you mood but not like drugs or alcohol unless you’re abusing the AAS. Better yet a good steroid cycle can better your health increasing your quality of life. We can abuse anything in life! Heck to much sugar will alter you mood! With that said keep working out not just your body but your mind, spirit, and soul. God bless! And you are not alone!
 
Just hit 7 years clean off oxys bro .
and I cycle but nothing crazy. The only reason I'm running this cycle is becsuse I became very ill right after my last cycle and lost most of my gains . This will be my last cycle .
You should go get bloods drawn and see where ur at becsuse oxys destroyed my testosterone levels and left me hanging low . There is a possibility u may need trt from all of ur drug abuse .
 
Just hit 7 years clean off oxys bro .
and I cycle but nothing crazy. The only reason I'm running this cycle is becsuse I became very ill right after my last cycle and lost most of my gains . This will be my last cycle .
You should go get bloods drawn and see where ur at becsuse oxys destroyed my testosterone levels and left me hanging low . There is a possibility u may need trt from all of ur drug abuse .

Dude I’ll tell you what when I first started working out in rehab I was at the absolute worst shape of my life. I could barely lift 135 10 Times. This was at 240 pounds too. I couldn’t lose weight even though I wasn’t eating much at all and I didn’t start to see gains until 6-7 months soberiety. I mean sober as in not a single drink/smoke/anything. Would you consider a cycle a relapse? I had my bloods done before I started my current cycle, I was around 5xx I believe. I have them posted on my cycle set up thread. 7 years clean is a hell of an accomplishment man. How’d you do it? I am not fond of meetings personally, I just know where I’ll end up if I go back to that life— dead.
 
Congrats on being sober brother. There are many of us ex addicts around these forums so you’re not alone. Good luck staying clean and building into beast!
 
Congrats on being sober brother. There are many of us ex addicts around these forums so you’re not alone. Good luck staying clean and building into beast!
I appreciate it man. I would say it was easy but that’s a bold face lie. Without rehab I’m sure I wouldn’t have came out on top of that nasty sickness. I’m just glad I had something I couldn’t be more passionate about that is not only healthy+non self destructive but also makes me in to a total freaking badass. For real if anyone out there reads this and is fighting with this shit hit me up. I’ll always be down to help a fellow addict.
 
Dude I’ll tell you what when I first started working out in rehab I was at the absolute worst shape of my life. I could barely lift 135 10 Times. This was at 240 pounds too. I couldn’t lose weight even though I wasn’t eating much at all and I didn’t start to see gains until 6-7 months soberiety. I mean sober as in not a single drink/smoke/anything. Would you consider a cycle a relapse? I had my bloods done before I started my current cycle, I was around 5xx I believe. I have them posted on my cycle set up thread. 7 years clean is a hell of an accomplishment man. How’d you do it? I am not fond of meetings personally, I just know where I’ll end up if I go back to that life— dead.
I couldn' do the meetings ..made me want to get high more than stay clean .
The weights keep me clean bro .I habe a day job but now train people on my nights .I have a business partner and were planning on opening our own gym. I'm goon reach out to rehab centers and offer cheap training programs to recovering addicts .
 
Cflow—
That’s amazing man I felt the exact same way. If I felt the way the people in the meetings did I would be getting fucked up erryday! Lol. I definitely feel you when you say the weights keep you clean. It’s hard to get gains when you are trashed. I like that idea of yours, if you don’t mind me asking where are you located?
And I suppose that makes sense. I’m adhering to the rule of time on cycle + pct = time off cycle (in my case it’ll be 17 weeks in between this cycle and a potential next cycle)
 
I've been off heroin since 2012 after a decade of being on various opiates and eventually going to the needle. Went to rehab twice and it never took. Going to prison for 21 months finally got me clean. Been running gear for a little over two years now. Had a slight and short relapse earlier this year with some other things, but haven't touched opiates at all. It wasn't related to gear though, I got temporarily sucked back in by a toxic ex girlfriend. I find using gear and lifting to be a good way to not want to get high. Losing gains and all that.
 
Perrin— i dabbled with H and needles at one point but the junkie life wasn’t for me. It’s a lot more socially acceptable to take pills for some reason or another although it’s still frowned upon. I’m just glad I don’t ever have to use that shit again.
Britz— there is nothing brave about being honest about where you have come from and how far you have been. I might not lift more then 70% of the guys on here but I promise I have some mental strength like no other. Lost my best friend to a drug overdose and he was my main motivation to get clean and start working out. He got some bad pills and mixed it with alcohol. Fortunately he left me his little brother who is very much like him and strives to train just as hard as his brother did.

Like I said before, if anyone has any questions or is battling addiction of any kind please reach out to me. I’ve seen some very wild shit. I omitted a lot of my story to make it more to the point and not dilute my message. I could write a book on the years I wasted getting wasted. I’m just so glad to hear that I’m not the only workout junkie to have gone through the bowels of addiction.
 
10 years sober with over a dozen cycles. I enjoy being on cycle and look forward to each one but I don't fiend over it and damn sure don't go to the lengths I did to get dope. I never shot dope which I have heard people struggle with putting a needle in but know guys with years who after working the steps said the thought didn't cross their mind
 
Greetings.
So for starters, a little about me.
I’ve always loved lifting. Ever since I touched weights my freshman year of high school I was hooked. I lived for it. While some guys on sports teams used it to improve their performance on the field, I used sports to measure my performance in the weight room. I was addicted to lifting weights from 14 years old. Unfortunately I fell in with the wrong crowd later in high school. What once was a fun loving, outgoing kid who partied on weekends turned into a substance abusing prick. Casual drinking became binge drinking (not the good kind) I started doing blow and pain pills regularly.

I thought everyone was doing this.
I made it into a prestigious university in the south. But like my passion for weight lifting I began to explore a passion with drugs. Skip ahead a few months I ended up medical withdrawing from the school after one semester because I was unable to maintain the lifestyle I was living. I was drinking very heavily and taking oxycodone on a daily basis. At this time the one thing that gave me happiness (lifting) was completely out of my life. My long time girlfriend from high school died of cancer leaving me a huge cache of more drugs that slowly led to a breakdown. I ended up in the hospital after I overdosed on a handful of dilaudid I stole from her house after the funeral.

At this point I reached out to my parents to seek treatment. I attended an inpatient program for drug and alcohol addiction at a very young age. I was finally getting help I needed very desperately. I spent 3-4 days out of the week in the gym as we did not have much else to do other then watch tv, hang out with each other, read and sleek. It was like a plush jail cell. The kind you hear about the super wealthy do federal time in. Anyways 3 months passed by and I completed the program. I had my life back finally after years of going through the motion I was back to me. I gained a ton of weight from this experience (muscle and fat). I got back in to the gym and I can honestly say without my motivation to lift more weight and gain more muscle I would not have been able to stay sober. I actually got my one year chip 365 days after my first NA (narcotics anonymous) meeting. The weights were my saving grace along with the help from my family and friends. I met a new girl, got a decent job, and have been living life ever since. To this day I still have refrained from drinking, pills, powder, any narcotic substance (prescribed or not) I have completely left out of my life. I cannot be more thankful.

With that being said, I recently started a steroid cycle. Testosterone E 250mg/ml 2x a week. Anadrol 50 5x a week on training days. With so much time in sobriety under my belt it is natural for me to not even think about the right and wrong thing to do. I know I can’t drink, I have a problem with drinking. I know I can’t use painkillers, even when I had surgery I refrained from taking any sort of narcotic pain relief bc I know I can’t take it like a responsible adult. So anyways I started taking these injections and tonight I came to a brutal and honest conclusion: This is a relapse. To me a relapse is consuming any sort of substance for the purpose of mood altering. That’s what steroids are used for recreationally anyways, is to make you feel better about yourself. It was absolutely devastating realizing I threw away years worth of clean time but I will live. It doesn’t mean I’m going back to using drugs or alcohol, it was just a major disappointment that I got complacent with my recovery and confidence in my decision making.

I’m not asking for anything other then some support. If you have some words of encouragement or some advice with handing this situation they are appreciated, however if you are going to post something negative don’t waste your time. I don’t need some internet douche telling me I’m a failure or whatever. The truth hurts but I felt like I needed to tell anyone and I don’t know anyone on this forum IRL so I came here to get it out. I hope this is in the right sub forum. If anyone else is in recovery just know you aren’t alone, and if you need someone to speak to on this matter I am here.

Thanks again everyone.
Thanks for sharing your story and well said. I've had my brush with the hard stuff, and lost 2 friends to Heroin back in the day. Though it's so easy to get into drugs and some might say it's a sign of a weak character - getting clean is one of the hardest things a person can do, and requires a willpower that is extraordinary. It's over and above what many people, non users - would ever be capable of. You've achieved that - so keep that in mind going forward, think about what else you are capable of having got through this. What you could achieve.
Don't be hard on yourself, I personally wouldn't see hormones as a relapse - as long as you keep away from the stims - or Rich Piana's 'preworkout'! But you have to be your own counsel on that question.
Whatever you do, I wish you the very best.
 
Hi there. CAswole here, drug addict/ alcoholic. Juice doesn't count imo. That'd be like considering yourself going out because you took creatine and pre-workout. U can abuse anything though so be careful.
 
There have been alot of good points brought up so far....
Opiates kill your natty test production.
You may need trt.
Peds same as cigs in n/a.
I kicked opiates in dec 2013...
Coke crack meth...snorted smoked and banged all of em.
Not even any desire to use again and ive been around it a bunch in the last 4 yrs....why?
Lifting and trt.
Ive done cycles etc.
Do not beat yourself up or even allow yourself to consider that the appropriate use of aas or trt is something to consider as relapse.
Everyone of the above drugs steal your life money and future....
Ped's on the other hand make u stronger mentally and physically allowing you to lead a longer happier more productive life.
 
The overwhelming support here is incredible guys.
I’m really glad I made this thread. Not only for me but for anyone going through a rough point in their life. We are examples that you CAN quit and you CAN make yourself in to the best possible form. It will take some time and hardwork but it is far from impossible.
 
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