Some stuff from the old basskiller website

[baxter0312]

 

[baxter0312]

And this is the phlojel ultra transdermal recipe

 

[H&M]

Thank you baxter!

 

[baxter0312]

Not basskiller but this is something for making transdermals

 

[AlexDavis43]

Not basskiller but this is something for making transdermals

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Any progress on homebrewing creams/gels?

If yes, similar with different compounds (and still no esters)?

 

[baxter0312]

Any progress on homebrewing creams/gels?

If yes, similar with different compounds (and still no esters)?

just testing left to do to see how much to dose.

certain compounds like primo are very hard to decrease the particles. The flakey crystals, you can see it on the flow chart you either have to dissolve them (not an option) or do your best to grind it down. if you turn the lights out and shine a flashlight on your skin you can see whether it absorbed or not

 

[baxter0312]

 

[AlexDavis43]

just testing left to do to see how much to dose.

certain compounds like primo are very hard to decrease the particles. The flakey crystals, you can see it on the flow chart you either have to dissolve them (not an option) or do your best to grind it down. if you turn the lights out and shine a flashlight on your skin you can see whether it absorbed or not

We should probably start another thread for this. I'm looking to start homebrewing topicals. Have most of the ingredients, now looking for recipes/protocols.

 

[baxter0312]

We should probably start another thread for this. I'm looking to start homebrewing topicals. Have most of the ingredients, now looking for recipes/protocols.

Okay there's a big difference between making cream and other topicals. other topicals always add ethanol or dmso to completely dissolve the compound. with cream you don't want to add anything maybe a little bit of levigating agent if it's crystalline

 

[BigOldBastard]

Okay there's a big difference between making cream and other topicals. other topicals always add ethanol or dmso to completely dissolve the compound. with cream you don't want to add anything maybe a little bit of levigating agent if it's crystalline

What's the difference? Thanks for the previous posts, very helpful

 

[baxter0312]

What's the difference? Thanks for the previous posts, very helpful

If you have to dissolve it, the solvent is taking up way too much of the composition resulting in lower concentration. And the fact that it won't absorb as well to begin with.

 

[baxter0312]

dissolving in alcohol and putting it in a squirt bottle will work but no one's going to have a good time using it.

 

[BigOldBastard]

If you have to dissolve it, the solvent is taking up way too much of the composition resulting in lower concentration. And the fact that it won't absorb as well to begin with.

Is that true of DMSO as a solvent? I thought it enhanced absorption?

 

[buck]

Is that true of DMSO as a solvent? I thought it enhanced absorption?

It is both. Many solvents go right through the skin.

 

[baxter0312]

DMSO goes right through the skin and into the blood. That's not what you want unless you're looking for a preworkout i guess.
With transdermals the drug gets delivered through the skin and sits in a resevoir underneath where it gets released slowly throughout the day. So lower levels like test c but no ester so it's out of your system by the next day

 

[baxter0312]

That's not to say you can't get higher levels with transdermal. You would simply spread it over a larger surface area. This would mimick the peak and drop of Test prop

 

[BigOldBastard]

That's not to say you can't get higher levels with transdermal. You would simply spread it over a larger surface area. This would mimick the peak and drop of Test prop

What about the case of a cream made with an agent dissolved/levigated with DMSO. The cream would obviously constitute a far greater proportion of the mix than the DMSO. Seems like the best of both worlds.

 

[baxter0312]

What about the case of a cream made with an agent dissolved/levigated with DMSO. The cream would obviously constitute a far greater proportion of the mix than the DMSO. Seems like the best of both worlds.

Never heard of levigating with dmso, but you can add a little bit if you wish