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[XanMour]

Hi !

TRT for low test with symptoms of POIS. Basically a mess since 3 years really hard to loose fat even with good diet, steps and gym. Awfully tired, I’m cold, mental blur even tho I have a scientific job.

I mean fucked up life.

Since the start I was planning on getting on Test E but right now I can get easily Drug from pharmacy (AI, Test …), so decided to go for Nebido which is available in my country.

So here’s the thing :

- frontload : Nebido 250mg E3.5D — WEEK 1 —> 2
- Maitain : Nebido 250mg E2WS — WEEK 2 —> ?

Does it seems ok ? I make a test planner and added the pics to get your tough on that.

I was also planning on doing my bloods works 2 month after, to check E2.

If high, how should I use Aromasin ? E3,5D 12.5mg ? One time E7D ?

Less aware of the best oestrogen compound for Test U

Also going for ozempic, 0,5mg a week. Does it goes an impact even at this dosage for an help to weight loss and overall health Benifit ?

Thanks you guys.

 

[secondlives]

AI dosing can be highly individual dependent, you're better off going with a lower dose and getting blood hormone levels checked and going from there. It will always be easeir to deal with slightly above normal e levels then slightly crashed.

In general you're going to want to lose the bodyfat before boosting test as fat will automatize test and can cause issues, your body is lowering your test for a reason right now. Still good you got the script regardless.

If you are above 30%bf you should start considering ketosis. It will help you reabsorb the excess skin and help somewhat with the stretch marks. you can go keto while on o-o-ozempic.

It will also help with the food noise that got us here in the first place, and with a restricted diet you have less ability to cheat yourself of results.

once you get your bf to a reasonable level then you're in a much better place to start boosting test levels and recomping.

hope this helps

 

[XanMour]

AI dosing can be highly individual dependent, you're better off going with a lower dose and getting blood hormone levels checked and going from there. It will always be easeir to deal with slightly above normal e levels then slightly crashed.

In general you're going to want to lose the bodyfat before boosting test as fat will automatize test and can cause issues, your body is lowering your test for a reason right now. Still good you got the script regardless.

If you are above 30%bf you should start considering ketosis. It will help you reabsorb the excess skin and help somewhat with the stretch marks. you can go keto while on o-o-ozempic.

It will also help with the food noise that got us here in the first place, and with a restricted diet you have less ability to cheat yourself of results.

once you get your bf to a reasonable level then you're in a much better place to start boosting test levels and recomping.

hope this helps

Thanks so much for this message.

Alright for the AI, will do my bloodwork’s anyways to check if, but the question was more technical if I need it what’s the best scheme for it !

Never really tough of keto actually, really not against it going to make some research and understand it to begin with.

Actually my BF was around for a while and still poor bloodwork’s at this time (did 3 test total, free, available) at around 8 months difference and all were too low. Right now I would be around 20-22% of BF I believe.

Isn’t test going to help a little bit as I am under the lower gap of the normal ? I am tired asf can’t function that good and makes me hard to lose fat even with a really good diet

 

[Liter O' Test]

nebido sucks and is expensive.
just use test c or test e like everyone else, i dont care that its pharma
again its expensive and its not easy to adjust and might even be hard to dose A.I to
(I have used nebido for 1+ year)
K.I.S.S
keep it simple stupid
no offense of course

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

nebido sucks and is expensive.
just use test c or test e like everyone else, i dont care that its pharma
again its expensive and its not easy to adjust and might even be hard to dose A.I to
(I have used nebido for 1+ year)
K.I.S.S
keep it simple stupid
no offense of course

I brew test U castor and do 440 every 2 weeks or 660 every 3 weeks. Best decision.


I also have 500g of test U vacuum sealed for the zombie apocalypse

 

[XanMour]

It’s a TRT for health benefit more than something else, having a long ester isn’t a good solution? More stable test right ?

I get it, but having really pharma test isn’t better than getting something shady ?

You really dislike your usage of it ? Can you tell me everything why please ?

Thanks !

 

[XanMour]

I brew test U castor and do 440 every 2 weeks or 660 every 3 weeks. Best decision.


I also have 500g of test U vacuum sealed for the zombie apocalypse

Injecting that much isn’t a problem in there of PIP?

 

[secondlives]

Thanks so much for this message.

no problem mate

Alright for the AI, will do my bloodwork’s anyways to check if, but the question was more technical if I need it what’s the best scheme for it !

Are you asking for specific ai I would suggest or dosing schedules or..?

Never really tough of keto actually, really not against it going to make some research and understand it to begin with.

Actually my BF was around for a while and still poor bloodwork’s at this time (did 3 test total, free, available) at around 8 months difference and all were too low. Right now I would be around 20-22% of BF I believe.

If your doc agrees you're in that 20-22% range and you don't have a more accurate way to check, I would say you probably don't need keto as it's more for cases of genuine obesity. You could just use the standard caloric deficit cut protocol & training.

Isn’t test going to help a little bit as I am under the lower gap of the normal ? I am tired asf can’t function that good and makes me hard to lose fat even with a really good diet

Yeah If you're below 25% there will still be aromatization but not to the extent that I would avoid test, I was mistakenly thinking you were higher bf%. You will probably be in the majority who still need intermittent adex or asin with ralox but you're not in an area I'd avoid exogenous test altogether

It’s a TRT for health benefit more than something else, having a long ester isn’t a good solution? More stable test right ?

it prevents peaks and troughs, which are what generally cause sides. more stable is always better, less injections means long term less scar tissue and thinner skin.

I get it, but having really pharma test isn’t better than getting something shady ?

in general yes, you should try to get the longest ester you can legally. however there are sources here that are comprable to pharma grade

Injecting that much isn’t a problem in there of PIP?

he's not injecting more ml mate, he's injecting far less ml far less often. he'll explain to you

 

[XanMour]

no problem mate

Are you asking for specific ai I would suggest or dosing schedules or..?

If your doc agrees you're in that 20-22% range and you don't have a more accurate way to check, I would say you probably don't need keto as it's more for cases of genuine obesity. You could just use the standard caloric deficit cut protocol & training.

Yeah If you're below 25% there will still be aromatization but not to the extent that I would avoid test, I was mistakenly thinking you were higher bf%. You will probably be in the majority who still need intermittent adex or asin with ralox but you're not in an area I'd avoid exogenous test altogether

it prevents peaks and troughs, which are what generally cause sides. more stable is always better, less injections means long term less scar tissue and thinner skin.

in general yes, you should try to get the longest ester you can legally. however there are sources here that are comprable to pharma grade

he's not injecting more ml mate, he's injecting far less ml far less often. he'll explain to you

I’m actually my own doc (not in the field of Urology or Endocrinology, that’s why I don’t have that much knowledge on those products) so I can prescribe myself some test and got basically Sustanon and Nebido available and no test E or C.

For my body fat right now I’m around the 25% I believe so far, went trough changes and anxiety but going back into an healthy diet and working out soon. The main problem is that I got POIS which may be cause by low T and allergic reaction, which I am on the way of getting a treatment for the second part. It’s on research so quite difficult to find something to help me.

For the AI, I will go for Aromasin, it’s more the schedule that I believe I don’t have clear idea one.

Should I take 2x a week, like one day and 3,5 day after the injection? Or only one ?

Yeah, more scared of trying to get a good source, and when you can get 100% true test it makes you like less anxious about it. But not against getting back to Test E or C, 150mg to 200mg EW if you guys thinks that’s the best idea

 

[secondlives]

nice. glad to have ya here mate.

The main problem is that I got POIS which may be cause by low T and allergic reaction, which I am on the way of getting a treatment for the second part.

I would be very surprised if exogenous test did not at least alleviate some of your symptoms.

For the AI, I will go for Aromasin, it’s more the schedule that I believe I don’t have clear idea one.

Should I take 2x a week, like one day and 3,5 day after the injection? Or only one ?

if you're just looking for TRT levels of test replacement you should be fine just starting off with once every other week, getting yourself tested on your off week and adjusting from there. again way worse to have crashed e then slightly too high.

Yeah, more scared of trying to get a good source, and when you can get 100% true test it makes you like less anxious about it. But not against getting back to Test E or C, 150mg to 200mg EW if you guys thinks that’s the best idea

for your end goals i'd keep it legal but thats just me

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Injecting that much isn’t a problem in there of PIP?

Uhh do you get pip?

 

[XanMour]

Uhh do you get pip?

Was just a question, I did not yet start !

 

[XanMour]

nice. glad to have ya here mate.



I would be very surprised if exogenous test did not at least alleviate some of your symptoms.

if you're just looking for TRT levels of test replacement you should be fine just starting off with once every other week, getting yourself tested on your off week and adjusting from there. again way worse to have crashed e then slightly too high.

for your end goals i'd keep it legal but thats just me

Yeah seems the best idea.
Thanks so much for your time !!

 

[secondlives]

no problem mate, happy to help. I'd usually say pass it on when/where you can but you're already a doctor so thanks for what you do mate