Long Off-Season to Classic D Class Weight Cap

The side by side almost defines logic. Gotta ask, is your wife a fan? I stick out like a giant swollen thumb here and mine gets a little annoyed at people always staring.

She’s pretty impartial, but she doesn’t really like when I am bulking because I get pretty aggressive with the food and become pretty fat, and my snoring becomes bad. In terms of attention, it kind of makes her insecure because women on social media in this country can be kind of out of pocket and so can the ones at bars and so on during the rare occasions I socialize with friends
 
Damn so small update. I have been using too little gear this entire time… my coach realized I have been pinning e3d and not e2d based on an answer I made about my eq use on another forum.

I did not know eod is e2d and so I’ve been pinning a lot less gear especially on blast…

each week on cruise im several hundred mg lower than my protocol calls for, and my highest blast point I was probably using 800mg-1g less than I was supposed to.

I’m very glad my coach paid this much attention and it will really accelerate my progress.

I’m still very happy with how this year has gone and my blood work on highest point of blast looked. That being said I hope this means that 1. My response to growth on a conservative dosage is not bad, and that this year because my gear use will be higher I’m going to see an even bigger change.
 
EOD = Every Other Day

That's pretty wild man. If you responded that well running things low, imagine what's going to happen this round not to mention the extra room you now have to expand dosage wise.
 
EOD = Every Other Day

That's pretty wild man. If you responded that well running things low, imagine what's going to happen this round not to mention the extra room you now have to expand dosage wise.

Yeah I know haha, I didn’t realize eod and e2d are the same thing on account of being a giant autistic moron. But yeah actually it makes me even more optimistic. Live & learn I suppose
 
My blood work as required before next push.
Some items will be out Monday. I won’t get input from my coach til Monday, but I’m not really concerned with any of these results I’m seeing. I’m not including test because 300 more mg of any compounds the result is out of the test range to report. In the thyroid exam because I am fasted and I didn’t take my T4 yet, so that might be why my T4 is out of range.
I will see what my coach wants to do about this, as I’m not well informed about thyroid manipulation.
Hematocrit is .4% out of range. I asked if I should donate blood tomorrow, before my check in, but I was told not to worry, since this is fine due to lab standards being poorly selected for this specific test. My cholesterol of course will be slightly out of range, as it is with steroid use. My ldl is actually better now than it was on my first blast.
I think my insulin sensitivity looks fine. Again on this topic I will wait for coach input because I am new to the ins and outs of manipulating and monitoring this.

Hopefully this indicates I am healthy enough to push in my off season.
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So, bloodwork looks great according to coach. Now it’s time to start a real off season.

This time I have real gh, and will be taking more gear. Last time for a very long time I was not using real gh and this obviously made a difference. Only 2/3 of the way through the off season I switched to pharmaceutical gh that has been registered etc and had blood tests done to assure its legitimacy. So this hampered some progress.

Food started going up, tomorrow gear will start to ramp up (dosages going up in increments).
Right now using test, and eq. Later we will also be adding ment, which is really my favorite compound for strength and of course NPP. Last time we didn’t use NPP but I have a strict limit on how much ment i can run before I deal with sides from aromatization.

This week my pressing strength recovered. I am now pressing 140kg for 6 on incline, which I previously was hitting when I was 108.8kg. I also now have surpassed my previous leg strength, doing leg press 300kg x 10 followed by working hack squats of 300kg x 9.

Currently at 98kg/216lbs fasted.
Images attached from week at 97.8kg

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So yesterday night Wed. Oct 30 I started my off season blast, took first pin.

Test was doubled and now is 250mg per pin.
Insulin added 8iu preworkout

Macros for training are now: 300/580/20
Macros for rest: 300/220/95

My cardio is slightly lower, my steps per day minimum has been decreased, but because of my job, which is very active, I doubt I will ever do what it has been lowered to. On the weekend I might do less walking, but really this depends on plans with my family.

Hope we keep this pace of body weight vs body fat accrual, but either way it is what it is.

Gym progress going up like crazy now.

My glute bridge caught up to PR, 260kg/575lbs x 8 on a ramp. In 2 weeks I was able to add an entire 6 reps without touching the machine…

I think my SLDL will hit 200kgx8 next week if I slightly modify my ramp up sets so I have more in the set to make 200kg my top set, instead of 100-140-180-200, I will go 80kg/175lbs-120/265-160/352-200kg/445lbs for my work sets.

My incline barbell bench also was able to add 2 reps at the same weight since last time.

Everything in my back day was also able to add reps, except dead stop meadows row, and upper back rows, I added weight. Upper back rows I added 30kg, and these are in rounds with timed rest. Hamstrings I am now adding weight to machine. Lying curls are at 81kg (full stack +5kg) for last top set.

Bicep curls also added weight this week 2.5kg, and for spider curls FST I must increase the weight next time since I did 7x15 25kg with 30 seconds rest between, and frankly it was too light, even though last week I did less and it was harder.

Everything this week was overloaded with a higher load so far than last week.

I might take my optional 2 day off( instead of one day option) after this microcycle if my legs don’t recoup for tomorrows leg day and if I see any signs of regression. However because I just added more test, and food, I probably won’t need to. Just a thought. I also expected they might regress my previous session but I was stronger than ever… so I really just need to feel out this new training protocol and try learn what managing my fatigue is going to look like for this macrocycle.

98kg/216lbs
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Sunday check in:
Ending the week at 98.6kg/217.5lbs
So from October 1 to November 3 I’ve gained 12.3lbs. This is much slower than last rebound, so I hope we keep this pace generally.
After changing PEDs I am gaining weight even after leg day.
Overhead press is now 140kg for 7 with dead stops. Now I will start to add weight since it’s the correct rep range.

There is no reason to rest more. On leg day everything was able to PR, and I added an entire 40kg to leg press with very slow tempo and full rom (now 340kg/750lbs for 7 reps) and 40kg to belt squat, after everything else.

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This week been holding over 100kg.
now have high days and are in full swing of diet. I’m still hungry, and we already are in off season. I think I will grow well. Still haven’t had a single cheat meal. High day has lantus, and my fasted blood glucose is decreasing.

Seated Military press now at 100kg x 8, incline press 140 x 7, adding chips or reps still on all back day movements. Leg day and hamstrings going up the fastest. Shrugs back to 180kg for triple drop set. Leg press at 340kg up to 9 reps. Biceps and triceps been adding chips and reps too. Last time they kind of stalled out, so it’s nice to see in making real progress with every single body part in terms of performance. I feel like this split is really working for me.

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Diet staying the same. PEDS staying the same. I’m getting hungrier now while in a surplus.

Up to 101.5kg

Hungry even on high days, despite the 800 carbs. Could easily eat much more, so I will have a lot of room to grow this off seasons

Incline Pressing up to 150kg/330lbs for 6-8. I really want to see if I can hit 180kg 400lbs for reps for the incline this off season. I am going from 140kg for 6 to 150kg for 6 in a month so hopefully I will keep this kind of steam.

Hack squats up to 300kg/660lbs 11+ reps
T bars back to 4 plates after nasty super sets of pullover + pulldowns, low rows also will be up to 8 plates my next session.
Overhead press is now 150kg also with dead stop on machine. Seated dead stop Military press is over 100kg as well.
Hamstring isolations moving up, working on tempo for glute bridge and RDL since those are pretty heavy already. I’m not in a rush to get to the 220kg since I’ve already done the 200kg I have a lot of time to really make it more technically sound with the weight I’m at.


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Now holding same body weight very consistently while making small improvements. Strength is continuing to improve very well.
This week I hit

hack squats at 320kg/700lbs x 10,

SLDL 8 x200kg/440lbs,

incline press finally hit 8x 140kg, so I will start to add weight slowly and begin the crawl towards 4 plates per side.

Military press was at 110kg but my rep range was 1 short of what I needed and my form was a bit sloppy, so I’m going to back off, and work on better control of the eccentric.

Back and arms are growing, adding reps as usual. With the style of training for back since I don’t have some big compound many moved up in 10kg increments or 1 rep very consistently from last week to this week.
 
Solid numbers man. I don't know about you, but I always found with longer legs pulling bigger numbers was a pain unless I was willing to get a little sloppy on form, which is probably why my left knee is shite now. Hindsight.
 
Solid numbers man. I don't know about you, but I always found with longer legs pulling bigger numbers was a pain unless I was willing to get a little sloppy on form, which is probably why my left knee is shite now. Hindsight.

I think it depends on arm length/torso too, for example I have abnormally long chimp arms so it makes conventional deadlift easier to set up and progress, because i can just bend a little, grip and rip. Where it really affects me is pressing because the range of motion is much higher. but I know guys who have different proportions so they struggle with the lift because they have to get lower and the position requires more mobility.
 
So moving forward, first phase of off season diet is finished.

100kg-101.6kg

We are adding more carbs on high and training days
(high- 860, training-640, rest- unchanged)
Adding +2iu insulin pre and post.
Adding +10iu lantus on high day
Coach is also giving me option to add gh (if it is financially feasible), which it is, so my condition will be monitored and he will update my growth hormone input shortly.

AAS are unchanged as my body fat is controlled, and strength is still making consistent stable progress.

BG is excellent
BP & HR is 107/74 & 60 so this is not problematic in any sense.

I am looking forward to trying this amount of gh in off season. Last off season I didn’t use gh until I was well into it, and the effects are very obvious.

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Some separation from the side of glutes is still noticeable during video of posing practice, which was not the case last week.
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Waking up this week at 104kg/230lbs
Still have full abs, some lines on glute in side pose. 2 months up about 25lbs. Of course I still want to push up to 115kg or more and am working patiently.

I was given another compound to add to my stack. Ment at 25mg eod. This is my favorite PED in off season.
I cannot go past 25g ment without gyno development, unless I were to add other compounds to manage sides, but this is all I need if I’m being honest.

I also added 20g carbs to high and training days. Looking to keep condition and move the weight up slowly.
I had my first cheat meal last week on thanksgiving in about 6 months since it was my daughters first time she could eat solid food for this holiday. Didn’t overdo it by any means.

My coach offered to increase growth hormone soon as well, if it is possible financially . it is feasible, so I am prepared to add more in at his discretion.
 
So up to 105.7kg/233lbs fasted
I’m 3kg off from my heaviest, but in much better condition, with really good appetite and digestion and a lot of room to grow. I could very easily handle more food, so it won’t be hard when it is necessary to do so.

Coach is very happy with the direction my physique has taken during our cooperation and I am looking forward to starting the second year working together.

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Cycle and PEDS the same.

750 test
375 eq
75 ment
5iu gh

Lifts all progressing really nicely. Will be using pendulum squat now as i don’t like having to load over 300kg to hack squat, so fewer plates is a time saver

. Also won’t be using belt squat, because I want to isolate quads as much as possible.

On back and hamstrings day, I will be working on removing all posterior engagement from hamstrings on prone curl and vertical curl. Seated curl of course no problem on quads day.

For pressing I finally got to 150kg incline for 6 and failed just shy of locking out 7, so I’m very happy to see my pressing getting better. When I started I could barely bench 40kg for 5
 
This is the repetitive part of the off season, now that rebound has slowed a bit, and I’m just moving forward adding chips on lifts. I have to push hard to make sure I beat the log book and force the growth, because with this amount of PEDS and food I have no reason not to progressively overload basically every session. Only reason I wouldn’t is increasing tempo + rom OR I’m just lazy and that wouldn’t be ok.

Feedback from coach at this point is largely regarding technical aspect of lifts, and trying to isolate muscles and get the best out of training, because everything is going smoothly. We just want to keep the current pace and progression exactly as it is, and I want to make sure I’m adding muscle exactly where it needs to go intentionally. Insulin sensitivity great and blood pressure very healthy, with room to add peds in future as is required.

I’m happy with this pace too, and WHEN this keeps moving this way through this phase I will make my biggest improvements this upcoming year, and start to look more classic.

Holding around 106kg/233lb this week very comfortably. appetite began growing again. No noticeable difference in fat gain

Calories and PEDs will remain the same at least one more week, while I get hungrier and I tighten up a bit at this weight.
 
Hit 220kg/485lb SLDL today, for reps which is the weight I wanted to get this to. However when coach reviewed it, he found I need to make some changes. My legs are too stiff/straight for the stiff leg, the last reps I do engage my back a bit and the weight is in torn hamstring territory so I need to rework this movement. I will be going back down to 4 plates per side and really making big pauses, and just slightly less knee bend than RDL so I don’t blow my leg out.
I will also be doing smaller intervals in my ramp, so I can really work on technique up the weights.

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