Hair Loss

[AlmightyAlpha]

I feel like adding high dose zinc,biotin and low dose hgh helps with some hair growth. But it's definitely a genetic condition if you're affected hard by dhts

 

[sham12]

how do deca and anadrol interact w dut?

They say that by preventing 5ar conversion to dhn deca ends up being way more damaging hair follicles

 

[leepriest_doshapemontado]

I feel like adding high dose zinc,biotin and low dose hgh helps with some hair growth. But it's definitely a genetic condition if you're affected hard by dhts

i ve done +/- 2 months ONLY GH 2-3ui daily at night, and after 2 weeks into this i start to shed a lot.

This with more than 6 months of hair improvement on finasteride/minox

i stopped GH and shedding started to slow down and stop

 

[AlmightyAlpha]

i ve done +/- 2 months ONLY GH 2-3ui daily at night, and after 2 weeks into this i start to shed a lot.

This with more than 6 months of hair improvement on finasteride/minox

i stopped GH and shedding started to slow down and stop

Hard to say bro I grow more hair on GH. Everyone responds differently

 

[leepriest_doshapemontado]

yes, with hair loss only you really need to try for yourself.

what make one guy shed hair , for other is safe

 

[Newcitygas]

With duta all good

 

[I'llneverstayloser]

* KY19382 - an analog of PTD-DBM. Interesting preclinical results, activates a

Can you offer me a legitimate source for either KY19382 or PTD-DBM, I am really struggling with it.

 

[littlebicepsbigdick]

Have any of you looked into RSPO agonism? Or lowering DHT induced increase in TGFb and follicular inflammation?

 

[Country Club Hero]

I’m holding on with delusion. I’ve been on minoxidil for 15 years. No Fina. Wouldn’t mind getting that procedure that basically tattoos little dots on your scalp. Thousands of tiny dots. But I doubt I’ll ever truly pursue it.

Just started with oral minox and gonna try a holistic approach alongside. Like emu oil, pecan oil, tomato seed oil, etc… And I use Nizoral 2% E3D. I buzz mine weekly with a number 2 guard. Grew it out several months ago and not only is it really thin to missing on crown. But it’s incredibly gray and wispy on the top.

Eh, fortunately I have a decent skull shape. Head is round like a pee with double bone plating along the base and bottom of skull.

I’m at peace with whatever happens up there. Unfortunately I have some significant sun damage that becomes more apparent as I lose hair. Not awesome. Something to watch as i age.

 

[Eddie.]

I’m holding on with delusion. I’ve been on minoxidil for 15 years. No Fina. Wouldn’t mind getting that procedure that basically tattoos little dots on your scalp. Thousands of tiny dots. But I doubt I’ll ever truly pursue it.

Yes, that's what i'm planning to do eventually after i shave my head. It's called SMP, scalp micropigmentation and it looks awesome compared to a black side and shiny top.

 

[Country Club Hero]

Yes, that's what i'm planning to do eventually after i shave my head. It's called SMP, scalp micropigmentation and it looks awesome compared to a black side and shiny top.

Oh ok. Awesome dude. Is it complicated? Are they doing it all over the country yet or still just a handful of places?

Also what you expecting it to cost?

 

[Eddie.]

Oh ok. Awesome dude. Is it complicated? Are they doing it all over the country yet or still just a handful of places?

Also what you expecting it to cost?

I don't know where you are but i live in a small country in EU and there are probably 10+ places doing it, i'm guessing in bigger countries there's even more clinics doing it.

Just be careful, it requires a certified SMP technician's licence and not a classic tattoo one.

The one i looked it goes from first to third degree in your head. First degree is the hairline, second degree is hairline + top center and third degree is full top with hairline.

Cost is around 400 per each degree, so depending the severity it can go from 400 to 1200 if you decide to do full top. I believe it requires 2-3 sessions. I'm talking about the shaved look, there's a way doing it like camouflage where they fill only your bald spots between your hair so it can look more full but i don't like this idea because sometime eventually you're going to lose that hair too.

From what i've read in case someone wants to do transplant after the SMP is doable.

 

[Country Club Hero]

I don't know where you are but i live in a small country in EU and there are probably 10+ places doing it, i'm guessing in bigger countries there's even more clinics doing it.

Just be careful, it requires a certified SMP technician's licence and not a classic tattoo one.

The one i looked it goes from first to third degree in your head. First degree is the hairline, second degree is hairline + top center and third degree is full top with hairline.

Cost is around 400 per each degree, so depending the severity it can go from 400 to 1200 if you decide to do full top. I believe it requires 2-3 sessions. I'm talking about the shaved look, there's a way doing it like camouflage where they fill only your bald spots between your hair so it can look more full but i don't like this idea because sometime eventually you're going to lose that hair too.

From what i've read in case someone wants to do transplant after the SMP is doable.

Awesome man. Good results too. And great info. Ty

I’m in the states so it’s probably readily available nearby I would imagine.

 

[OnDemandBaller]

FYI shedding isn't hair loss. Not growing back is.

How do you effectively distinguish it without waiting eventually for them to grow back?

I did some research and it suggest looking if the bulb is attached to the hairs, or that if the loss is at 100ish hairs max is shedding, but would appreciate some tips to improve my discernment.

 

[Ghoul]

How do you effectively distinguish it without waiting eventually for them to grow back?

I did some research and it suggest looking if the bulb is attached to the hairs, or that if the loss is at 100ish hairs max is shedding, but would appreciate some tips to improve my discernment.

With each grow, rest, drop cycle of hair, as the bulb has more and more irreplaceable stem cells murdered by DHT, each new hair cycle produces a thinner hair. When it can no longer penetrate the scalp, that's "hair loss".

The final stage of a miniaturized hair that will not come back is it's very short, Often colorless.

If a long, colored hair falls out it's almost certainly temporary shed.

 

[Trippy802]

Some of you bros dont care about hair loss, but it can be a big concern for most of us other bros. I'm 35 and I still have a thick and full head of hair. I am not one of those guys who would look good bald or balding. In some of my cycles years ago, I noticed large volumes of hair falling out in the shower during a cycle. This brought me to the point where I would look in the mirror and say, "What good is there in having huge muscles if my hair looks like crap?" So my search began to find the best possible hair solution, which involves stopping hair loss and even reversing it!

Let me just show you the final results (IN ORDER OF IMPORTANCE), and I will comment on each:

​

1. AVODART® (Dutasteride) - Dutasteride was developed to help shrink the prostate and was found to have an even more profound effect on regrowing hair than Finasteride! Not only that, it can take care of more of your DHT, it starts working faster, and stays in your system for much longer. 1 to 5 mg ED is all you need, and it also keeps that prostate down during your cycles. In my book, this is a win/win situation.
2. PROPECIA® (Finasteride) - Next to Viagra, this drug may have had one of the all time record advertising budgets. Finasteride is a hair loss prevention / regrowth drug. Recommended dose is 1 mg ED and after 6 to 12 months the user may achieve positive results. The reason I write "big 4" in the title of this thread is that it may not be necessary to use both Dutasteride and Finasteride, although there are no known drug interactions. I say roll with Dutasteride if you can and if not then use Finasteride.
3. ROGAINE® (Minoxidil) - Cheap to buy generic at target in three month supply, Minoxidil blocks DHT on the scalp. After handling DHT within the body via Dutasteride or Finasteride, you can also stop the damage of DHT on the scalp. Use twice a day. I use it after my morning shower and after my workout shower.
4. NIOXIN® (Cleanser, Conditioner, and Treatment) - Use these Nioxin products as your daily shampoo and conditioner. They work on the scalp to ensure that your skin is healthy. Shampoo removes impurities that clog follicles, including DHT. The conditioner keeps the scalp moisturized. The treatment adds botanicals and nutrients to the scalp skin.
5. NIZORAL® (A-D Shampoo) - Ketoconazole, the main ingredient in Nizoral, acts as a relatively mild anti-androgen. (Androgen binds to hair follicles and over time shrinks them down, causing thinner and thinner hair.) Use this shampoo once a week for help with DHT.

This hair regiment is not difficult to maintain, and can provide great results. I went from losing my hair to growing it back! It takes a few months to start working, so for the first 6 months have patience. Passing the 1 to 2 year markers using the "Big 4" regiment should yield significant hair gains, or at the very least put an end to your loss.

This article assumes appropriate nutrition, hydration, and sleep.

Peace,

-bj

Thank you for the great info man. I trip about this shit all the time as my hair is hella long and I don’t want it dissapeari

Some of you bros dont care about hair loss, but it can be a big concern for most of us other bros. I'm 35 and I still have a thick and full head of hair. I am not one of those guys who would look good bald or balding. In some of my cycles years ago, I noticed large volumes of hair falling out in the shower during a cycle. This brought me to the point where I would look in the mirror and say, "What good is there in having huge muscles if my hair looks like crap?" So my search began to find the best possible hair solution, which involves stopping hair loss and even reversing it!

Let me just show you the final results (IN ORDER OF IMPORTANCE), and I will comment on each:

​

1. AVODART® (Dutasteride) - Dutasteride was developed to help shrink the prostate and was found to have an even more profound effect on regrowing hair than Finasteride! Not only that, it can take care of more of your DHT, it starts working faster, and stays in your system for much longer. 1 to 5 mg ED is all you need, and it also keeps that prostate down during your cycles. In my book, this is a win/win situation.
2. PROPECIA® (Finasteride) - Next to Viagra, this drug may have had one of the all time record advertising budgets. Finasteride is a hair loss prevention / regrowth drug. Recommended dose is 1 mg ED and after 6 to 12 months the user may achieve positive results. The reason I write "big 4" in the title of this thread is that it may not be necessary to use both Dutasteride and Finasteride, although there are no known drug interactions. I say roll with Dutasteride if you can and if not then use Finasteride.
3. ROGAINE® (Minoxidil) - Cheap to buy generic at target in three month supply, Minoxidil blocks DHT on the scalp. After handling DHT within the body via Dutasteride or Finasteride, you can also stop the damage of DHT on the scalp. Use twice a day. I use it after my morning shower and after my workout shower.
4. NIOXIN® (Cleanser, Conditioner, and Treatment) - Use these Nioxin products as your daily shampoo and conditioner. They work on the scalp to ensure that your skin is healthy. Shampoo removes impurities that clog follicles, including DHT. The conditioner keeps the scalp moisturized. The treatment adds botanicals and nutrients to the scalp skin.
5. NIZORAL® (A-D Shampoo) - Ketoconazole, the main ingredient in Nizoral, acts as a relatively mild anti-androgen. (Androgen binds to hair follicles and over time shrinks them down, causing thinner and thinner hair.) Use this shampoo once a week for help with DHT.

This hair regiment is not difficult to maintain, and can provide great results. I went from losing my hair to growing it back! It takes a few months to start working, so for the first 6 months have patience. Passing the 1 to 2 year markers using the "Big 4" regiment should yield significant hair gains, or at the very least put an end to your loss.

This article assumes appropriate nutrition, hydration, and sleep.

Peace,

-bj

thank you for the info man. This has been the best I have found.

 

[Chunk7]

I’ve had magor issues with this and nothing seems to help I run a lot of masterone could this be the issue

 

[TrenVeryHard]

I’ve had magor issues with this and nothing seems to help I run a lot of masterone could this be the issue

Masteron in itself should not cause hair loss in the average person. I lose more hair on 500 test, than I do 200 test and 600 mast.

When my estrogen gets out of range I lose hair a lot more.

 

[HU_Master777]

I used nandralone phenyl 200 mg per week(+ ~200 test), + ~1.5 mg dutasteride every other day for 4 months.

my experience - in my case deca + duta did not affect or worsen my hair condition.

 

[stargab]

Masteron in itself should not cause hair loss in the average person. I lose more hair on 500 test, than I do 200 test and 600 mast.

When my estrogen gets out of range I lose hair a lot more.

This is unfortunately not correct. Any DHT derivative is terrible if you’re prone to MPB.

Shedding hair because your E2 is out of range is completely different than being prone to DHT in your hair follicles and injecting the very thing into your body.

The whole mechanism of Finasteride/Dutasteride is limited the conversion of test to dht through 5 alpha reductase.