Somewhat unclear with hcg

Dunkirk

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I'm currently at 200mg cruise of test e split into two doses. My bloodwork is pretty good overall, ALT and hdl are out of range but barely anything. Not concerned when compared to baseline.

My trough levels are 860/916 test, 21/25 free test and 22.3/35 estradiol sensitive. Second number is the max range on the test.

I tested recently at the 48 hour mark and got 1450 test, 35.5 free test, and 33.2 estradiol.

Few questions:

1) Are my trough and/or peak levels good for a cruise?
2) I want to add HCG at 500-1000iu/week. I'm thinking of adding 24 hours after test to minimize fluctuations between test doses. Should I focus on my peak or trough levels?
3) I want to use HCG for maintenance only. Current libido is good. Only thing I noticed with being on this dose of test is I'm a bit more reactive on my typical emotional setting, but nothing I can't control. I want to continue without any AI if possible. How do I determine if I should lower HCG or lower test?
4) if libido is good and sperm production looks good, is there even a reason of adding HCG? Maintenance is a concern, not trying to have a kid, but will in the future.
 
1. Fine for cruise
2. That’s a lot for maintenance. 1000 is totally overkill ime. Right now I do maintenance with 250. Look at fsh/lh too. Probably want to see peak e2 so you know how high it goes.
3. Do you need more hcg for maintaining fertility then lower test, right. If not lower hcg to minimum you need.
4. Depending on how long you’ve been b&c you probably are shutdown lol. Depending on how long you WILL b&c and be shut down this will determine how likely you are to fuck up your fertility long term. To be safe if you want to have a kid in the future, it’s probably best to use it.

In my case I also don’t want another kid right now, but my wife and I plan on more in the near future so I need to make sure it’s ok. To do that I just use bare minimum hcg dosage now at all times, but when the time comes then I will have to ramp it up
 
Thanks for the useful information. Definitely got a better path moving forward. Couple more questions.
2. Look at fsh/lh too. Probably want to see peak e2 so you know how high it goes.
I realized I never got a baseline for that, I'm going to test Tuesday. Going forward I just need to have them in range with the use of HCG?

Also, what do you mean by "see peak e2"? It's currently sitting at 33 with test only. Tested 48 hours after injection.

I don't intend to blast, only cruise. I started with test this January at 150 then increased to 200 around March. Bloodwork and libido have been optimal which why I'd like to add HCG at this point.
 
Standard protocol for hcg is 250iu EoD.

Check you E2 to make sure it doesn't raise it too much. It can be significant for some people.

If you plan to have kids in the future, I'd add and keep hcg in. Quite a few people also note an increase in QOL or better feels with hcg in as well.
 
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