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Matty_G
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Damn Sp5der tren got mf acting out. Will def be picking up couple kits when back in stock.
dallascowboys01
New Member
I mean its better than tik tok!
Catteni
New Member
I sent BTC on 1/24. Reached out 2/3. Asked for address again and said would send that day 2/3. Reached out 2/12 and he said he would re-send if no movement. 2/16 he said he would re-send without me asking. This if for 5 TNE. First time order was TRA kit with great T/A prior. Label was created when originally paid but no other updates. That said I know it will get here but just sharing my experience.
ZaddyZonar
Member
From the looks of it, seems like the source bit off more than he could chew with the sale he had. Sure a few weeks is whatever for being a domestic source, but over a month is a bit much. China packs land quicker than that.
I’ve never bought from him yet, have been waiting for more reviews to drop. Just going based off what I’m seeing.
I’ve never bought from him yet, have been waiting for more reviews to drop. Just going based off what I’m seeing.
sp5der
Subscriber
I promise you it has been re sent
Catteni
New Member
I believe you.
sp5der
Subscriber
Tne sold out until new batch made I believe. I’ll see after all orders/replacements fulfilled
Tbaz192
Member
It’s like people have no patience.
We’re in a world wide raw shortage.
Sources can’t get raws like usual.
And back when it was normal it still could take a long time to get things.
So now when gear is in stock.
They’re slammed with orders. This is some corporate company. Have some god damn patience lol.
For instance a source with a name of 4 letters just opened up again. And the site crashed from so much traffic.
@sp5der I’m not very active in your thread. But it’s typically in the best interest to ignore people like that. You’ve laid out the facts. That’s fine. Leave it at that. Just another Korean guy here spamming your thread lol
We’re in a world wide raw shortage.
Sources can’t get raws like usual.
And back when it was normal it still could take a long time to get things.
So now when gear is in stock.
They’re slammed with orders. This is some corporate company. Have some god damn patience lol.
For instance a source with a name of 4 letters just opened up again. And the site crashed from so much traffic.
@sp5der I’m not very active in your thread. But it’s typically in the best interest to ignore people like that. You’ve laid out the facts. That’s fine. Leave it at that. Just another Korean guy here spamming your thread lol
Turkeybuilder
Member
I think based on sp5ders responses in this thread alone we can confirm his tren works
Side note I purchased a reta kit from him and it came lightening fast. He also hooked it up for me when he didnt have to. He seems like a genuine guy and ill be purchasing more from him. This obviously isnt his only job, hes doing this as a side hussle so dont hold him to the same shipping standards as someone who only slings shit all day and does nothing else lol
Side note I purchased a reta kit from him and it came lightening fast. He also hooked it up for me when he didnt have to. He seems like a genuine guy and ill be purchasing more from him. This obviously isnt his only job, hes doing this as a side hussle so dont hold him to the same shipping standards as someone who only slings shit all day and does nothing else lol
Matty_G
Member
+1 for lighting fast Reta, included the infamous spider as well.
hellerhiwater
Member
I stg if I’m jumpscared by a plastic spider in my pack I’m going to leave a bad yelp review.
sp5der
Subscriber
im unpackaged it right now to add one in
ZaddyZonar
Member
sp5der
Subscriber
I can’t edit my first post
But yeah I mean they’re still shipping 7 days a week. Just there’s more orders now
Letsgetthis
New Member
Yessir I see it has been created, appreciate it!
Dammit. I was going to snag a few more and a Reta kit and test was just waiting for you to get caught up.
BALLISTIC
Member
@sp5der
(FULL REVIEW)
CUSTOMER SERVICE
Sp5der and I communicated early on in his thread, prior to anything being available, with a clear understanding that long time delays would more than likely occur. That expectation was set upfront.
I placed a larger sum order, correct me if I'm wrong Sp5der but we were well close to 50 vials. Throughout the entire process, Sp5der communicated with me.
Being the person I am, I told him to hold off shipping anything until he was fully G2G and everything was in order. I did not rush him. I did not pressure him. I let time take place.
Without bothering the man, he eventually reached back out when everything was ready.
Upon receiving my order, one item was overlooked. Rather than act like a brat child, I inquired how we could both remedy and meet in the middle, as the item I ordered was out of stock. Sp5der went above and beyond in resolving that. We came to an agreement, and he surprised me with far more than expected as a remedy.
That is customer service rooted in accountability, not obligation.
ETIQUETTE
At no point have I ever been disrespectful to the man. Even when delays occurred, even when one label moved and the other only showed “created” for several weeks, I did not bombard him with “WTF” messages.
Instead, I simply asked, and I quote:
“Hey bro, no movement in this just so you're aware and can look into it.”
That’s it.
A few days later, I received a response explaining it hadn’t shipped yet due to being tied up with an abundant amount of orders.
No drama. No hostility. Just communication.
DEMEANOR
Sp5der’s demeanor remained steady throughout the process. He openly posted in his thread about his circumstances, taking personal time, the holidays, and the fact that he is a god damn human being. That is more than acceptable. Even under volume and delay pressure, he responded calmly and professionally.
Kindness is not weakness. Patience is an uncommon virtue. I feel many of you complaining are mistaking his kindness for weakness, and that is not going to work out in your favor.
CHARACTER
This is where it matters.
When he resolved the oversight in my order, he did more than required. He did not have to do what he did. Now here’s where some of you won’t understand my position. Even though I came out ahead in that resolution, that is not my character. I emailed him thanking him sincerely and acknowledging he did not have to do that.
I have already sworn to the man that during my next order, extra BTC will be dropped to square things between us.
Some of you may think that’s stupid or “retarded” since technically I benefited, but that’s not how I operate. I don’t allow imbalance in business relationships.
To this day, I believe Sp5der understands both our business relationship and my personal character. Mutual respect exists between us.
BUSINESS
You are operating solo. Many of the individuals complaining have zero inclination into the logistics of processing orders:
Preparing
Verifying counts
Packaging one by one
Securing packaging above reproach
Offloading packs safely, securely, and discreetly in methods not disclosed but fully understood
That is real work. You are providing a top notch product at a more than reasonable margin. I sincerely hope you do not adjust your pricing upward. I am a lifelong customer without question, and when you are ready to modify your list and go full swing again, I am ready to place a large order again without hesitation.
Constructive recommendation only, and yes, it is your business to operate at your leisure and desire:
It is time for a firm MOQ. You need this my man. $500.00 minimum subject to change for slowing volume momentarily.
This will rule out the problems.
Some will refute this stating, “I don’t like to spend this much without first verifying.” I refute that with, read the thread, excuse the 0.1 percent complaints, and move forward confidently.
Another thought when you do sales, kits like the TCyp for instance, make the minimum two kits. This is a man’s world. If it’s affordable, you can certainly afford not to be burdened by what follows from small scattered orders. If you can't afford, then evaluate your finances thoroughly.
TIMEFRAME
Yes, delays occurred.
They were discussed early and clearly understood. Sp5der described them in detail, and while failing to read the thread they were overlooked by those complaining.
At one point in my case as mentioned, I noticed labels created. One moved. One did not. I gave it several weeks before even mentioning it. When I did, it was calmly.
A few days later I received clarification. A few days after that, another update and apology for the delay. No ghosting. No disappearance. Just workload and human circumstances. Timeframe matched reality, not entitlement.
FINAL TAKE
Between us, a strong mutual respect exists. I plan to further that business relationship by remaining humble and accepting that while statements are made, circumstances can change.
My recommendation to those complaining: relax. Sp5der will take care of you. He will be far more inclined to expedite that process when mutual respect is shown.
Patience is rare.
Professionalism is rarer.
Mutual respect is everything.
@MESO-Rx Administrator
Out of courtesy can we evaluate the red banner for further legitimacy. I think the thread in it's entirety speaks volumes.
(FULL REVIEW)
CUSTOMER SERVICE
Sp5der and I communicated early on in his thread, prior to anything being available, with a clear understanding that long time delays would more than likely occur. That expectation was set upfront.
I placed a larger sum order, correct me if I'm wrong Sp5der but we were well close to 50 vials. Throughout the entire process, Sp5der communicated with me.
Being the person I am, I told him to hold off shipping anything until he was fully G2G and everything was in order. I did not rush him. I did not pressure him. I let time take place.
Without bothering the man, he eventually reached back out when everything was ready.
Upon receiving my order, one item was overlooked. Rather than act like a brat child, I inquired how we could both remedy and meet in the middle, as the item I ordered was out of stock. Sp5der went above and beyond in resolving that. We came to an agreement, and he surprised me with far more than expected as a remedy.
That is customer service rooted in accountability, not obligation.
ETIQUETTE
At no point have I ever been disrespectful to the man. Even when delays occurred, even when one label moved and the other only showed “created” for several weeks, I did not bombard him with “WTF” messages.
Instead, I simply asked, and I quote:
“Hey bro, no movement in this just so you're aware and can look into it.”
That’s it.
A few days later, I received a response explaining it hadn’t shipped yet due to being tied up with an abundant amount of orders.
No drama. No hostility. Just communication.
DEMEANOR
Sp5der’s demeanor remained steady throughout the process. He openly posted in his thread about his circumstances, taking personal time, the holidays, and the fact that he is a god damn human being. That is more than acceptable. Even under volume and delay pressure, he responded calmly and professionally.
Kindness is not weakness. Patience is an uncommon virtue. I feel many of you complaining are mistaking his kindness for weakness, and that is not going to work out in your favor.
CHARACTER
This is where it matters.
When he resolved the oversight in my order, he did more than required. He did not have to do what he did. Now here’s where some of you won’t understand my position. Even though I came out ahead in that resolution, that is not my character. I emailed him thanking him sincerely and acknowledging he did not have to do that.
I have already sworn to the man that during my next order, extra BTC will be dropped to square things between us.
Some of you may think that’s stupid or “retarded” since technically I benefited, but that’s not how I operate. I don’t allow imbalance in business relationships.
To this day, I believe Sp5der understands both our business relationship and my personal character. Mutual respect exists between us.
BUSINESS
You are operating solo. Many of the individuals complaining have zero inclination into the logistics of processing orders:
Preparing
Verifying counts
Packaging one by one
Securing packaging above reproach
Offloading packs safely, securely, and discreetly in methods not disclosed but fully understood
That is real work. You are providing a top notch product at a more than reasonable margin. I sincerely hope you do not adjust your pricing upward. I am a lifelong customer without question, and when you are ready to modify your list and go full swing again, I am ready to place a large order again without hesitation.
Constructive recommendation only, and yes, it is your business to operate at your leisure and desire:
It is time for a firm MOQ. You need this my man. $500.00 minimum subject to change for slowing volume momentarily.
This will rule out the problems.
Some will refute this stating, “I don’t like to spend this much without first verifying.” I refute that with, read the thread, excuse the 0.1 percent complaints, and move forward confidently.
Another thought when you do sales, kits like the TCyp for instance, make the minimum two kits. This is a man’s world. If it’s affordable, you can certainly afford not to be burdened by what follows from small scattered orders. If you can't afford, then evaluate your finances thoroughly.
TIMEFRAME
Yes, delays occurred.
They were discussed early and clearly understood. Sp5der described them in detail, and while failing to read the thread they were overlooked by those complaining.
At one point in my case as mentioned, I noticed labels created. One moved. One did not. I gave it several weeks before even mentioning it. When I did, it was calmly.
A few days later I received clarification. A few days after that, another update and apology for the delay. No ghosting. No disappearance. Just workload and human circumstances. Timeframe matched reality, not entitlement.
FINAL TAKE
Between us, a strong mutual respect exists. I plan to further that business relationship by remaining humble and accepting that while statements are made, circumstances can change.
My recommendation to those complaining: relax. Sp5der will take care of you. He will be far more inclined to expedite that process when mutual respect is shown.
Patience is rare.
Professionalism is rarer.
Mutual respect is everything.
@MESO-Rx Administrator
Out of courtesy can we evaluate the red banner for further legitimacy. I think the thread in it's entirety speaks volumes.
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crispybacon!
Member
As always, a very thorough and thoughtful post! But, I think you’re off on the suggestion of an $800 MOQ. Speaking for myself (but I imagine others might agree), I’m not dropping $800 on a typical purchase. I’m a low volume user who doesn’t resell any of my purchases. How people can place these massive orders across multiple vendors and not be reselling is beyond me. But, I genuinely don’t think that size of an order represents the average buyer, and I suspect sp5der would lose a lot of customers over a change like that. Of course, it’s his business and he can do as he pleases.
dallascowboys01
New Member
$500 to $800 dollar minimum?
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